German Imperial badge with prop and steering wheel

[Flyingdutchman]

Gentlemen,

what kind of badge is this ?

I believe it has something to do with the German Aero Club and German Volunteer Automobile-Corps.

Maybe a badge from the Prinz Heinrich races ? Both paramilitary organizations participated in those races.

Would be great to hear the thoughts of the fellow members.

Best;

Flyingdutchman

[Chip]

dutchman,

I am not sure what exact organization that the badge represents, but it is definitely a non-military piece. It looks very similar to the various Flottenverein cap badges of the period (blue/black cloth oval with a naval style gilt ring). So I would think, given the motif, it is either an ex-pilot association, flying club or something on that order.

Chip

[Stogieman]

It is really interesting. If it wasn't for the darn steering wheel, I'd agree Aero Club!

[Kev in Deva]

It is really interesting. If it wasn't for the darn steering wheel, I'd agree Aero Club!

Hallo Gents, just a tired thought from a tired brain thats near dead from over 38 hours on the go since yesterday morning, (17th) but did Zeppelins have wheel steering?? to proppelors.

Airship possible connection??

Kevin in Deva

[Riley1965]

Kevin,

That's an interesting thought!! It kinda reminds me of the shoulderboard device of the Soviet Air Force Technical Branch.

Doc

[Flyingdutchman]

Hi all,

Soviet ? No ! Crossed prop and the prussian crown and eagle with the "Reichsfarben" black/white/red ?? This is Aero Club. But why there is a steering wheel and the wings ? Luftschiffe ? Maybe. They had control sticks ? Not sure.

My idea was Prince Henry races and flights 1913 and 1914 ? German Volunteer Automobile-Corps members and Aero Club members participated. Vic Diehl and I want to feature this badge in our Aero-Corps article. Not a good idea without any special knowledge what it really is... Luftschiffe, maybe.

Thanks for your help !

Best regards;

Flyingdutchman

Edited November 18, 2006 by Flyingdutchman

[Flyingdutchman]

Here is a link to a Luftschiff cockpit:

http://www.pilotundluftschiff.de/lz127cockpit.htm

Thoughts ?

Best;

Dutch

[Riley1965]

Flying Dutchman,

I know it's not soviet and it's Prussian. I was making a comment on parts of its styling.

Doc

Edited November 19, 2006 by Riley1965

[Flyingdutchman]

Hi Doc,

after my posting I understood your message.

Gentlemen,

I appreciate your input. Thanks a lot !

I will read through my books, maybe I can find it somewhere.

However still asking for the thoughts of the fellow members here.

Thanks in advance !

Best;

Flyingdutchman