Flyingdutchman

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... I think it’s not Flügeladjutant. There was a General a la suite badge also. It should be that one imo. Best; Flyingdutchman

Gentlemen, let’s look on an article about the history of the Walter Schott submarine war badge for a collector's magazine. Actually it’s an incomplete pre-version with some orthographic errors here. You can download the pdf here. Thanks for reading, any thoughts greatly appreciated. Best; Flyingdutchman

Michael, Ive sent you a pm with a link to my article draft. Try to find a badge with the green color still present. There are original badges without that color, sometimes misinterpreted by collectors as undesired patina and cleaned away. Yes, the missing “t” was most likely a die flaw because it changes over time. Beside that the appearance of the maker mark is consistent, which helps us today to understand more of these scarce and desirable items. Best; Hermann

Michael, unfortunately I have to say that this is also a copy, it is even much worse than the first one. In an article about these badges I wrote the following: In order to make a direct comparison possible I'm posting here photos of one of my badges. It won't be easy to find an original badge with the green color because, as mentioned above, they are quite rare. Nevertheless good luck! Best; Hermann

Hello, Im sorry to say, but the maker mark is wrong. Even under consideration how the flaw developed over time, there are other issues with that mark. Yes, it appears to be the real deal from a first glance, but unfortunately it isn’t. Best; Flyingdutchman

Gentlemen, there's a nice video about the early German Naval daggers by Tom Wittmann on YouTube: Tom Wittmann early German naval daggers Tom captures these early pieces very well. A few nitpickings, nothing really serious: - The first daggers he shows are Prussian pieces that were probably carried also on the ship Amazone.. One of these daggers, the one with the bent crossguard arm, seems to have got a replaced scabbard. It is likely the scabbard of a later dagger of the 1848 pattern. You can see this dagger at minute 16:39. - Basically he forgets to mention here that in 1844 also for the ship Amazone, a dagger-like Hirschfaenger was regulated for the officers. Such a piece has been published already. - Wrongly he describes a dagger of the 1901 pattern as being from the year 1890. It is the long dagger with open crown pommel. This is a typical 1901 pattern for sea officers. - There was no dagger of the 1902 pattern. The long dagger for naval officers with the open crown was introduced in 1901, all shorter daggers were just private purchased variations, and off course worn by sea officers. - There were no and never silver colored administration daggers. Administrative officers were not allowed to carry any daggers at all during the Imperial time, these were reserved for sea going officers only. This is also true for the later Weimar and Nazi period. In that time normal daggers were carried by administrative nco‘s and officers with silver coloured hanger buckles and hooks. This silver colored dagger in that video is most likely a dagger that lost the late war chemical gilt, daggers like this are already known to exist. - The so-called heavy daggers he showed were not pieces just for the rich mans Kids. First and foremost they were daggers for prospective officers, which were given to them by parents or comrades as personal weapon. No cadet carried them on duty, only those 1890 pattern cadet daggers regulated and issued to him. Only in their time as Faehnrich, after their election to officer status by the officer-corps these pieces were occasionally carried. With the introduction of the pattern in 1901 these pieces slowly disappeared. However Tom is absolutely correct, they are desirable items and always the center of any navy dagger Collection. - The very short Imperial dagger shown by him is certainly neither for an airship nor a submarine commander. There are real pieces and period photos, showing that they carried normal officer daggers. It is a private production of unknown purpose, probably a memento and/or a letter opener. However Tom's video is worth watching and it's fantastic that he gives a basic introduction into those early weapons. Best; Flyingdutchman

1916 rank list: Red Eagle Award 3rd cl with ribbon Royal Order Of The Crown 2nd. cl. Iron Cross 1st. cl. Service Cross Bavarian Military Order Of Merit 2nd cl. with swords. Brunswick Henry The Lion Award

Yes, in younger years.

Gentlemen, lets look on a scarce and for some a little bit not that nice bird, however a genuine example coming from a time with many difficulties for Europe and Germany. Most likely the dagger started his career as a 1919 Pattern dagger with a black scabbard. The blade was once longer and therefore deliberately shortened. It’s shiny nickel plated and probably a Damascus steel blade, impossible to judge coz only the dagger gods know for what weapon that blade was originally made. Its not a crude weapon, handwork is there and there’s a perfect dagger to scabbard fit. The dagger is published in a book, which makes a nice add. Thanks for looking Flyingdutchman

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohenlockstedt Nice engraving. Could you find both officers in the ranklists? The 1927 Honor ranklist is available as pdf https://sbc.org.pl/Content/370076/download/ Bon chance! Best; Flyingdutchman

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4660.html

... I need to find out coz it’s for a publication. However. Thanks for your help. Best; Flyingdutchman

... we see them sometimes field made, sometimes professionally produced issued examples. First are Austrian troops.

... interesting, indeed. I wasn’t even aware of that badge, so there’s much to learn here for me. For the sake of colorization, the badge in question should be in gold ? Thank you 🙏 Best; Flyingdutchman