Spanish cross silver

[MichaW]

Hello,

what do you think about this cross?

[MichaW]

Hello,

what do you think about this cross?

[MichaW]

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[MichaW]

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[MichaW]

... nobody a opinion?

[spectre]

Hi Micha,

Your cross looks good to me but Jacques is the real expert. Are there any marks?

Alan

[Riley1965]

Everything seems to be in order. A nice specimen!!

Doc

[Jacques]

hi Michaw

It seems that you had the idea than me...

the cross looks convincing, nevertheless I'm not confortable with it. I think it is a very well done dangerous copy.

It is mainly encountered with the CEJ 900 or 800 MM. The deail of the eagle head is typical.

Here are few samples of the same copies.

[Jacques]

eagle's head detail

[Jacques]

other same copy in silver

[Jacques]

copy details

[Jacques]

No other opinions ?

[Riley1965]

Jacques,

What is wrong with it that makes it a copy? The detail seems right. I am asking because I want to learn about them.

Doc

[Jacques]

I shown two different crosses which are IMO copies. There are MM CEJ 900 , but the CEJ mark is wrong, the eagles are not of the design as the original Juncker, thus the clutched swasticas. The cross presented at the top of the thread shows the same eagles details and swasticas, with no mark. Ithink it is a very dangerous fake. I will try to find other pictures of the same type of cross with other MM.

[Riley1965]

Jacques,

I think I see copy's error with the eagle's claw grasping the swatika

Doc

[Jacques]

Jacques,

I think I see copy's error with the eagle's claw grasping the swatika

Doc

The form of the swords grips is wrong too.

[Jacques]

reverse of the gold cross previously presented (COPY)

[Jacques]

another COPY

[Jacques]

reverse

[Jacques]

Another COPY

[Jacques]

reverse

[Jacques]

Another copy, the last one.

[Riley1965]

Jacques,

I keep looking at the sword grips and I am wondering what is wrong with them?

Doc

[Jacques]

Jacques,

I keep looking at the sword grips and I am wondering what is wrong with them?

Doc

Look on the reverse. On the copies, it seems there is a little round part at the top, which is not on the originals.

The eagles swastica have 3 cut branches on the copies, only 2 on the originals.

[Riley1965]

Jacques,

Thank You for the explanation!!! I learned something new today

Doc