MichaW Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hello,what do you think about this cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaW Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hello,what do you think about this cross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaW Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichaW Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 ... nobody a opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectre Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Hi Micha,Your cross looks good to me but Jacques is the real expert. Are there any marks?Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Everything seems to be in order. A nice specimen!! Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 hi MichawIt seems that you had the idea than me... the cross looks convincing, nevertheless I'm not confortable with it. I think it is a very well done dangerous copy.It is mainly encountered with the CEJ 900 or 800 MM. The deail of the eagle head is typical.Here are few samples of the same copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 eagle's head detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 other same copy in silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 copy details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 No other opinions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,What is wrong with it that makes it a copy? The detail seems right. I am asking because I want to learn about them. Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I shown two different crosses which are IMO copies. There are MM CEJ 900 , but the CEJ mark is wrong, the eagles are not of the design as the original Juncker, thus the clutched swasticas. The cross presented at the top of the thread shows the same eagles details and swasticas, with no mark. Ithink it is a very dangerous fake. I will try to find other pictures of the same type of cross with other MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,I think I see copy's error with the eagle's claw grasping the swatika Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,I think I see copy's error with the eagle's claw grasping the swatika DocThe form of the swords grips is wrong too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 reverse of the gold cross previously presented (COPY) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 another COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Another COPY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 reverse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Another copy, the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,I keep looking at the sword grips and I am wondering what is wrong with them? Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,I keep looking at the sword grips and I am wondering what is wrong with them? DocLook on the reverse. On the copies, it seems there is a little round part at the top, which is not on the originals.The eagles swastica have 3 cut branches on the copies, only 2 on the originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley1965 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Jacques,Thank You for the explanation!!! I learned something new today Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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