officer's Schirmmutz or officer's Feldmutz

[ccj]

What's the difference between the two?

Also, were feldmutzen supposed to have chinstraps? Were Schirmutzen supposed to be without straps?

[Chip]

Charles,

First, if you don't mind, it's Schirmm?tze and Feldm?tze. I think any cap that was a duty cap, as opposed to a dress cap, could be called a Feldm?tze. A Schirmm?tze is specifically a visored cap. A Feldm?tze could have a chinstrap as long as it was a visored cap. Both enlisted (M09) and officer's visored caps had chinstraps. In 1915 a new visored cap was introduced for enlisted men. It was to have no chinstrap and was intended to be for non-field use. So Schirmm?tzen could be with or without chinstraps. Technically, it depended on the model of the cap. In practice, visored caps were worn by non-Portepee NCOs and enlisted men in the field.

I don't have time tonight to verify this tonight (it's almost 11:30pm), but I am pretty sure I have my facts straight.

Chip

[Thomas]

ccj, did you read the evolution page on the kaiser bunker web pages for imperial german hats? fantastic research and great if you cant afford those big dollar references..

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/ht/index.htm

[ccj]

ccj, did you read the evolution page on the kaiser bunker web pages for imperial german hats? fantastic research and great if you cant afford those big dollar references..

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/ht/index.htm

Yeah, that's pretty good stuff...