mott5ranch Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 I have an EK1 1914 w/spange combo. I believe it to be a sweet jewelers piece because of the silver alone. The name Klaus Loy is engraved on the reverse. Does anyone have any lists from any texts, soldbuchs, photos (I know I'm asking for the impossible with that one) that might mention this person with this award? Thanks in advance for any input.
Steve campbell Posted February 12, 2008 Posted February 12, 2008 I have an EK1 1914 w/spange combo. I believe it to be a sweet jewelers piece because of the silver alone. The name Klaus Loy is engraved on the reverse. Does anyone have any lists from any texts, soldbuchs, photos (I know I'm asking for the impossible with that one) that might mention this person with this award? Thanks in advance for any input.Some pictures would be nice, but this particular set up has to really be watched. They did exist but have been faked alot. Engraved pieces also have to be watched. Think about it, what would a legit EK/spange combo with period engraving go for? I'm not saying your item isn't good but some pictures would really help.
mott5ranch Posted February 15, 2008 Author Posted February 15, 2008 Some pictures would be nice, but this particular set up has to really be watched. They did exist but have been faked alot. Engraved pieces also have to be watched. Think about it, what would a legit EK/spange combo with period engraving go for? I'm not saying your item isn't good but some pictures would really help.Thanks for the response Steve, but I think my question was too vague. I don't have any pictures of Klaus Loy; that's what I'm asking for. I want to find out more about the name. I know what these go for and it depends upon condition as usual, I know the period engraving, I've seen the Latvia and Manion fakes. I've seen hinged pieces and solid attached jeweler pieces. I know of no makers . . . nor of any in any LDO catalogs. I'm trying to find a direction to look for this guy and what else he may have won.. . . .I'm not worried about the piece. Thanks for the honest warning, you are right, there are fakes out there. Is there a web site or text that would have names listed that won an EKI in WWI?
Steve campbell Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 I don't know if there is a comprehensive list of EK1 winners. It wasn't a particularly rare award, so we are talking hundreds of thousands of names. There are memebers here who do have access or knowledge of individuals that might tell which awards they won.
joe campbell Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 mott-can you tell me what you mean by " hinged pieces"?any information is helpful.i hope you are able to find some info re: Herr Loy!joe
mott5ranch Posted February 16, 2008 Author Posted February 16, 2008 mott-can you tell me what you mean by " hinged pieces"?any information is helpful.i hope you are able to find some info re: Herr Loy!joehello joe,I've seen a few pieces where the clasp was joined to the EK with a jeweler made hinge assembly which allowed the clasp to bend OUTWARD from the chest. I assumed the bending pieces were for comfort when sitting or getting up from a chair. The combos came about because the EK w/clasp above didn't look as good together when mounted as two single pieces. As I was told by the old guys before me, combos were a personal choice not a requirement.No luck on Herr Loy as of now . . . as we all know millions of men were in service. I'm going to sell a few calves this spring and I'll make Rick an offer to search until my money runs out or until he has plenty of cat food It's quite a LONG shot, I know.
joe campbell Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 hello joe,I've seen a few pieces where the clasp was joined to the EK with a jeweler made hinge assembly which allowed the clasp to bend OUTWARD from the chest. I assumed the bending pieces were for comfort when sitting or getting up from a chair. The combos came about because the EK w/clasp above didn't look as good together when mounted as two single pieces. As I was told by the old guys before me, combos were a personal choice not a requirement.No luck on Herr Loy as of now . . . as we all know millions of men were in service. I'm going to sell a few calves this spring and I'll make Rick an offer to search until my money runs out or until he has plenty of cat food It's quite a LONG shot, I know.much appreciated, mott!i have recently seen one of these and thought this might bewhat you were referring to. EXTREMELY well made and assembled,what you might expect from an artisan trained and practicing in the imperial, weimar, and early TR eras.again, my thanks!joe
Guest Rick Research Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Good scans being worth thousands of words, I'd say POST SCANS.Finding something engraved with nothing BUT a name is very odd. We need to SEE.
mott5ranch Posted February 18, 2008 Author Posted February 18, 2008 All I have is this not so good picture at the moment. This piece is being looked at by a dealer and he has it now. If he returns it, I'll post better pictures. If he buys it I'll let you know where it is. Both the clasp and EK have a silver backing and the support piece is also silver! I sincerely apoligize for the poor photo . . .
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