Chad8504 Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 Hello everyone,A friend of mine asked me to help him identify a medallion that was given to his father. Here is what he told me about this medallion:"My father transported POWs in Wyoming in 1945-1946, During that time frame he became friends with the camp doctor, a captured German soldier. This Guy gave my father the medallion pictuerd above, the words are Auschwitz, Kaufering, Landsberg, Allach and dated 1945. I don't know exactly what it is and have no idea of its value or historical significance."Here are two pictures of it.This part ^^^ lists four concentration camps/labor camps: Auschwitz, Kaufering, Landsberg, Allach as well as the year 1945. We know all about these camps but cannot seem to find out WHY they are on this medallion. Here is the other side.Here you see the number 120148 (identification number?) and the letter C. I tried to find information online but was not very successful. At first I thought it was a medallion worn by a prisoner, showing their identification number and the letter maybe pertains to their country? It also puzzles me that the triangle is upside down...does that mean that they were homosexual?Does anyone have any ideas?
Kev in Deva Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) The three places mentioned, Kaufering, Landsberg, Allach:-are all concentration work camps in Bavaria.A Net search returns the following:-http://www.buergervereinigung-landsberg.or...p/dp_camp.shtmlhttp://www.survivors-landsberg.com/deathmarch.htmlhttp://www.jewishgen.org/forgottencamps/Ge...l/ListeEng.htmlDachau * Allach (Org. Todt) * Allach/Karsfeld/Moosach (org. Todt) * Allach-Rothwaige (Org. Todt) * Allersdorf-Liebhof * Ampersmoching * Asbach-Baumenheim (Messerschmitt) * Aibing (NEU) * Aufkrich-Kaufbeuren (Dornier) * Augustenfeld-Pollnhof * Augsburg (Messerschmitt) * * Augsburg- Haunstetten * Augsburg-Pfersee (Messerschmitt) * Bad Ischl * Bad Ischl Saint Wolfgang * Bad Tolz * Baubrigade XIII * Bayernsoien * Bayrishezell * Bichl * Birgsau-Oberstdorf * Blainach (BMW) * Brunigsau * Burgau (Messerchmitt) * Burghausen * Burgkirchen * Donauworth * Durach-Kottern (Messerschmitt) * Eching (Org. Todt) * Ellwagen * Emmerting-Gendorf * Eschelbach * Feistenau * Feldafing * Fischbachau * Fischen (Messerschmitt) * Fischhorn/Bruck * Freising * * Friedolfing * Friedrischaffen * Fulpmes * * Fussen-Plansee * Gablingen (Messerschmitt) * Garmisch-Partenkirchen * Germering-Neuaubing * Gmund * Grimolsried-Mitteneuf-Nach (Org. Todt) * Halfing * Hallein * * Hausham-Vordereckard * Heidenhaim * Heppenhaim * Horgau-Pfersee (Messerschmitt) * Ingoldstadt * Innsbruck * * Itter * Karlsfeld (Org. Todt) * Kaufbeuren (BMW) * Kaufering (Org Todt/Messerschmitt/Dornier) * Kaufering Erpfting o Hurlach o Landsberg o Lechfeld o Mittel-Neufnach o Riederloh o Schwabbeg o Schwabmunchen o Turkenfald o Turkheim o Utting * Kempten-Kotern * Konigsee * Krucklhalm * Landshut-Bayern (Org. Todt) * Lauingen (Messerschmitt) * Liebhof * Lind * Lochau * Lochhausen (BMW) * Lohof * Markt Schwabben * Moosach (Org. Todt/BMW/Messerschmitt) * Moschendorf-Hof * Muldorf (Org. Todt) * Muldorf Ampfing-Waldlager V et VI o Mettenheim o Obertaufkirchen * Munchen * Munchen Friedman * Munchen Riem (Org. Todt) * Munchen Schwabing * Munchen Sendling * Neuburg Donau * Neufahrn * Neustift * Nuremberg * Oberdorf * Oberfohring * Ottobrunn * Oetztal * Passau * Puchheim * Radolfzell * Rohrdorf-Thansau * Rosenheim * Rothschwaige-Augustenfeld (Org. Todt) * St. Gilden/Wolgansee * St. Lambrecht * Salzburg * Salzweg * Sandhoffen * Saulgau * Schlachters-Sigmarszell * Schleissheim * Seehausen-Uffing * Spitzingsee * Steinhoring * Stephanskirchen (BMW) * Strobl * Sudelfeld * Traustein * Trotsberg (BMW) * Trutskirch-Tutzing (Dornier) * Uerberlingen * Ulm * * Unterschleissheim * Valepp * Vulpmes * Weidach * Weilheim * Weissensee * Wicking * Wolfratshausen * Wolfratshausen Gelting * Wurach-Wolhof * Zangberg.Can you provide some close up pictures of the item?And a single Triangle on its own did not necessarily mean Homosexual.More on badges at:-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badgesKevin in Deva. Edited June 5, 2008 by Kev in Deva
Chad8504 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Posted June 5, 2008 The three places mentioned, Kaufering, Landsberg, Allach:-are all concentration work camps in Bavaria.A Net search returns the following:-Yeah I know of the camps and their history. What I am not sure of is what the medallion is. Not sure if it was worn by a prisoner or not....and if so...what the inscriptions mean.
Kev in Deva Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 As far as I am aware, the nazis did not bother gving the prisoners id tags,apart from a number tattooed on the arm, and the triangles were also color coded.so one worn as an idea in silver would not make much sense.As for the numbers, seems like a date but that would mean 112th January 1948!!I don't think a German Military Doctor would knowingly hand over, an item that might be used to incriminate him, with regards to him having served in the camps,with regards Auschwitz the fear of being handed over to the Russians would have ensured that.Seeing as this was given in 1945 / 46 and the war crimes trials were in full swing.Kevin in Deva.
Chad8504 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Posted June 5, 2008 Yeah I know of the camps and their history. What I am not sure of is what the medallion is. Not sure if it was worn by a prisoner or not....and if so...what the inscriptions mean.Whoops sorry...when I replied none of the information or pictures you posted showed up.Here are the pics in a larger size.
Chad8504 Posted June 5, 2008 Author Posted June 5, 2008 I don't think a German Military Doctor would knowingly hand over, an item that might be used to incriminate him, with regards to him having served in the camps,with regards Auschwitz the fear of being handed over to the Russians would have ensured that.Seeing as this was given in 1945 / 46 and the war crimes trials were in full swing.True...but the Medallion was indeed given to my friend's father from a German military doctor as stated above.
Kev in Deva Posted June 5, 2008 Posted June 5, 2008 (edited) Interestingly enough if you take the numbers to be a date,as in 12 January 1948 it leads to this when entered into an internet search:-http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/db942872b...33;OpenDocumentWhich is a one page document related to:UNITED NATIONS PALESTINE COMMISSIONCOMMUNICATION FROM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JEWISH AGENCY FOR PALESTINEI feel this has more of a connection as a commemorative medallion, to an ex prisoner of the camps, rather than a nazi itembut stand open to be corrected.It might be an idea to contact the American Jewish Holocaust Museum an see if they can identify it.Kevin in Deva. Edited June 5, 2008 by Kev in Deva
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