Heer Yet Another Holters Name Tag... HELP!

[DonC]

This one on the surface does not seem to be difficult, but the devil is in the details. I am getting Wolf von L?dwigshausen - anyone else see anything different? Rick, Simon, Hardy, and others, your opinions are always welcome...

Don

[Guest Rick Research]

(Freiherr) v(on) L?dinghausen gen(annt) Wolf(f), actually.

What's the rank and branch of service?

[DonC]

Thanks, Rick -

Sadly this is not on a tunic, but on a pair of General Staff Officer (mit lampassen) trousers. Rank I assume would be anywhere from Hauptmann on up.

Don

[Guest Rick Research]

Huh. I don't find anyone at all who matches in 1934.

There was a First World War Leutnant aD, and two young Leutnants-- 1936 and 1938 commission dates.

That suggests only (possibly) the WW1 fellow... if he had DIED before January 1939.

[DonC]

If the pants were crimson and not carmine would that make any difference? I don't have them in hand and only have the owner's description...

Don

[Guest Rick Research]

I only find the three-- one WW1 with no apparent Wehrmacht service (in 1934 anyway) and 2 then (1934) not in the service/too young. That's the state of things at this point.

I suspect somebody NOT WW1 era who was dead before WW2. Data incomplete after 1932.

[DonC]

I see the family name has a number of clergy in online searches. Interesting how even into the 20th century you see so many European nobility with some members in the military and some n the clergy.

Thanks, Rick, for all your help. Here's a scan of the trousers:

Don

[Guest Rick Research]

There were two old GENERALS in this family-- VERY old. Neither served in the FIRST War-- but one died in 1910 and the other in 1931.

Baffling.