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    Very nice bar. As the Wilhelskreuz is without sowards and he wears a military long service award he had to be a ex-NCO civilian. If he was out of the military pre 1913 he upgradet his older style long service brooch.

    A Wilhelskreuz without swords always indicates a non-military recipient. Isn't that helpful? =)

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    Guest Rick Research

    This one is NOT impossible. From the two pre-war medals, that long service award, and the Wilhelmskreuz, with a lot of time and work he MIGHT be identifiable.

    Daniel is working on the Wilhemskreuz rolls.

    The only problem is that there were probably a number of ex-NCOs who had this combination, not just ONE person.

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