Litzen

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

A topic I am a bit in the dark on....

Just what units DID wear Litzen? I thought it was only Garde or Leib Regiments, but it seems there was more than just that?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Chris

[Chris Boonzaier]

P.S.

I am talking 1916-18 here...

[Guest Rick Research]

Grenadier Regiments 1 to 9 and 11, Fusileer Rgt 80, Greandier Regiments 89 and 90, cadre of the Guard Corps "Halbinvaliden" Abteilung, Jäger Bn 14, pioneer officers, enlisted ranks as well of Pioneer Testing Section, Railways troops of all ranks, "airship" personnel (including all the ground crews of observation balloons), flying corps cadre (including enlited ground crew), cadre of the field and foot artillery gunnery schools (field artillery enlisted personnel had fuinny cuff Litzen buttons too-- photo around somewhere), cadre of testing battery of the foot artillery proving commission, medical officers, some categories of officer level Beamten, and if you want to go into the navy-- Marines (Marineinfanterie NOT "Matrosen" infantry)...

[Guest Rick Research]

You looking for photos?

[Chip]

Kraftfahrtruppen, Telegraphentruppen (three battalions only), Feldgendarmerie, Leibgendarmerie and Veterinary officers.

Chip

[Chris Boonzaier]

hmmmm... that complicates things....

will posta a pic as soon as it arrives.

The litzen looked like a subdued form of WW2 litzen...

watch this space...

[Chris Boonzaier]

OK,

here we go... looks to be a generic late war kind of litzen? (I assume noone is going to say "ahhhhh! in that shade of grey it can only be from Jäger BAtln 14!")

It has pionier Lt boards on it, but I think the boards are not original to the piece.

[Chip]

OK,

here we go... looks to be a generic late war kind of litzen? (I assume noone is going to say "ahhhhh! in that shade of grey it can only be from Jäger BAtln 14!")

It has pionier Lt boards on it, but I think the boards are not original to the piece.

Chris,

You are correct. These are rather generic M15 officer's Litzen. This type had either matt-gold or matt-silver cord in the place of the Spiegel. The color of the cord corresponded to the color of the Litzen on the previous pattern officer's Waffenrock.

Chip

[Chris Boonzaier]

So basically any Garde Unit could have it?

Best

Chris

[Chip]

So basically any Garde Unit could have it?

Best

Chris

Chris,

With the September 1915 regulations all pioneer officers wore the Doppel Kappelenlitzen. Generally, there were only three Litzen styles. There was the double Litzen (as you have shown) with the two colors of cord, there was the "old Prussian" pattern that was worn by some of the Garde infantry units (also with gold or silver cord), the "old Prussian" pattern with gray cord (Füsilier Rgt.80 only), and the Einfache Kappelenlitze(single)that was worn by some Grenadiers and Flieger troops.

[Chip]

Chip