Mike Dwyer Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Somehow, I don't remember exactly, I ended up with several German army calling cards, and one civilain one. I thought, as I have time, I'd post them. Someone might have some interest. Some of them have writing on the back, which I cannot read, others are blank. I'm not sure this is the correct place to post these, but I didn't really see anything else that fit. Here's the first one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Rick Research Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 This is fun! Jung's card is rather an affectation, using the spelling modernized in the 1890s perhaps to indicate he held the exalted status of Commercial Councillor since BEFORE the orthographic changes that made him a "KommerzienRAT." Message "Danke Ihnen, lieber Herr Engelmann, herzlich und mit besten Wünschen für Ihre Gesundheit für die liebwürdigen Glück- wünsche zu meiner Beför- derung. 2.6.18." So even though Herr Engelmann was sick, he'd still congratulated Hauptmann Major Jung on his promotion-- which certainly heps date THAT. Jung was presumably the pre-war Hauptmann dL I (Infanterie) resident in Landwehrbezirk I Frankfurt am Main. Karl Scholtz (1861-1912) held both posts for many years before the war BUT the change in designation to Tech. Vorstand occurred only between the Rank Lists of 1911 and 1912. He was transferred between the issues of 1912/13, so you've got a visiting card from either 1911 or 1912. He died on active duty as a Reichsheer Generalveterinär (that was a Colonel at the time), so believe may be able to provide you with his FACE--thanks once again to Glenn's amazing Indiana Jones archives explorations. Received BZ3aX during the war and held RAO4, KO4, PrXXV (previously Baden IX), and 1897 before the war. Rather surprised he never got a peacetime Baden Order despite years with FAR 14. Veterinarian rank titles were quite peculiar. Although shown as an Oberstabsveterinär in 1907 (earliest I looked--and then veterinarians did NOT have rank dates listed) he shows SENIORITY in 1912 in that rank as... 27.01.12 G. Despite which, he was Korpstabsveterinar (Lt. Col.) 18.10.12 A. He was Chief Veterinary Officer of the XIVth Army Corps at outbreak of the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Scholtz wasn't in the portrait album. But-- Jung was NOT a reservist-- he was a recalled retired General Staff Captain! From the 1914 1918 Honor Rank List-- Albert Jung's 1908/09 Orders Almanac entry showing him to have been a foundry owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Confirming his identity with the birth date, his 1913 Retired Officers Directory Listing (only shows Prussian awards so his Baden is not listed) I have only been able to find his commission dates in Feldart Rgt 15 Secondelieutenant 16.09.85 Premierleutnant 14.09.93 See how each scattered PIECE of the puzzle adds somehing that can be used to match it up with something else? Name, but no date. Date, but no name. Both.... Not bad for a slip of paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thanks, Rick! I really appreciate the insight. #3 I'm having to do this a little bit of time between working on something else, so it may take me a couple of days to get all of the cards on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Rick Research Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Kaden was born in 1856. he served in FAR 22 forever-- message of condolences "sendet innigstes Beileid und herzlichste Theilnahme. Besten Grüß! 10.12.95" He was still in FAR 22 when the world war started-- Oberstabsveterinär 27.01.12. Then had RAO4, KO4, XXV, and 1897. Retired as Generaloberveterinär (Lt Col), alive 1926. Kaesewurm (what a bizarre name) was promoted to Roßarzt 1899/1900. Unterroßarzt was not shown in Rank Lists, so pre 1899/1900. In 1900 he first appears in Schutztruppen SW Afrika. There in 1901-- no awards. Field Art Rgt 5 in 1902 with IX Years Service brooch and retired 1902/03 never to appear in my sources again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Rick, I'm not familiar with the title Roßarzt what type of doctor is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Mike, the term Roßarzt literally translates as "Horse Doctor" and was one of the various grades of military veterinary officials in use in the Prussian Army prior to the introduction of new rank titles on 27 August 1903. From that date on the Roßarzt was termed Oberveterinär. The development of the titles and insignia of the Prussian veterinary officials (from 1 April 1910 (A.K.O. 21 March 10) veterinary officers) is complicated. Prior to 31 March 1892, the veterinary surgeon holding the rank of Roßarzt held Senior NCO rank and from that date onwards the shoulder boards and epaulettes of a military official roughly equating to the rank of a Leutnant (no rosettes). Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 That would be Generaloberveterinär Richard Kaden. The then Oberstabsveterinär Kaden's claim to fame was the design of a veterinary saddle bag introduced into the Prussian Army in 1912! Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 That would be Generaloberveterinär Richard Kaden. The then Oberstabsveterinär Kaden's claim to fame was the design of a veterinary saddle bag introduced into the Prussian Army in 1912! Regards Glenn Thanks, Glenn, for the explanation and information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 I've managed to scan the rest of the cards, so I'll post them all now. #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 # 9 I'm sure this writing is too horrible to read..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 #12 More horrible handwriting!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 # 14 ..and now something oompletely different, a Zahlmeister! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 # 15 My one civilian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) #16 The last item that came in the package...not Imperial though, it's Third Reich. I'm guessing it's a wedding announcement? Edited October 8, 2009 by Mike Dwyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Oberroßarzt Karl Timm rose to the rank of Oberstabsveterinär (18.11.11 A) and retired as the regiment veterinary officer of 2. Badisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 30 on 20 May 1913. Roßarzt Kaesewurm retired in that rank from Feldartillerie-Regiment von Podbielski (1. Niederschles.) Nr. 5 on 26 July 1902. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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