DCM for Boer War - citation

[Northman]

Hello,

I wonder if anyone can help me with a citation for a DCM for the Boer War. If so the recipient is:

S/Sgt D.C.F. BLISS, CMR, (LG 31 Oct 1902). He was also MID as a Sgt in the same unit (LG 29 July 1902).

Regards,

Tim

[peter monahan]

London Gazette, OCT 31, 1902

"To Have the Distinguished Medal

p1609

"Sergeant D. P. Bliss, Canadian Rifles"

p6911

"2nd Canadian Mounted Rifles.

For "Staff Sergeant D. P. Bliss" read "Staff

Sergeant D. C. Forster Bliss." "

Sorry, no details - the list runs 3 full pages, 100s of names.

here's the site for LG searches:

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/1898-01-01;1898-12-30/exact=army+regulation/start=1

Peter

Edited April 1, 2010 by peter monahan

[Northman]

London Gazette, OCT 31, 1902

"To Have the Distinguished Medal

p1609

"Sergeant D. P. Bliss, Canadian Rifles"

p6911

"2nd Canadian Mounted Rifles.

For "Staff Sergeant D. P. Bliss" read "Staff

Sergeant D. C. Forster Bliss." "

Sorry, no details - the list runs 3 full pages, 100s of names.

here's the site for LG searches:

http://www.london-ga...ulation/start=1

Peter

Thanks alot Peter. I am trying to find the citation for the medal.

Tim

[Northman]

Thanks for your help Peter. I am trying to find the citation for the DCM. Maybe the unit diaries might help if I know where to find them.

Tim

[peter monahan]

Tim

Unit diaries or divisional orders may be the only way. I re-searched the Gazette with only the following results.

London Gazette, 29 JUL 1902, p4837

I would also beg to bring to notice the

following names:—

Lieut. - General Sir H. M. L. Rundle,

K.C.B., K.C.M.G., D.S.O.

Lieut.-General H. J. T. Hildyard, K.C.B.

Major-General Sir B. Blood, K.C.B. ...…

p4854

OVERSEA COLONIALS.

CANADIAN CONTINGENT.

Lieut-Colonel T. D. B. Evans, C.B.

Captain T. H. Callaghan.

Lieutenant R. H. Ryan.

Lieutenant and Adjutant F. Church.

Squadron Serjeant-Major M. Docherty.

Serjeant D. P. Bliss.

OVERSEA COLONIALS—•continued.

[column 2, p4854]

CANADIAN "SCOUTS.

Major C. Ross, D.S.O.

Captain A. McMillan.

Captain T. H. A. Williams.

Serjeant-Major K. J. Stallwood.

Regimental Quarter-Master-Serjeant G. Saunders.

Private A. Chesworth.

The dispatch starts somewhere before page 4837 for that date and, starting at Generals and the Life Guards, covers MIDs for virtually every unit in the British Army! As each page requires a separate download to get past my ‘net nanny’ program, I didn’t go all the way back to the first page. The despatch ends on page 4858 with the following signature:

I have, &c.,

KITCHENER, General,

Commanding-in-Ghief,South Africa

I suspect that this is the only ‘citation’ which exists, as there do not appear to be any other references in the Gazette to your Bliss between 1 January 1901 and 30 December 1902. . But if you go to this site, you can do that at your leisure:

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/1902-07-29;1902-07-29/atleast=D.C.F.+BLISS%2c/start=1

Peter

Edited April 2, 2010 by peter monahan

[Northman]

Tim

Unit diaries or divisional orders may be the only way. I re-searched the Gazette with only the following results.

London Gazette, 29 JUL 1902, p4837

I would also beg to bring to notice the

following names:—

Lieut. - General Sir H. M. L. Rundle,

K.C.B., K.C.M.G., D.S.O.

Lieut.-General H. J. T. Hildyard, K.C.B.

Major-General Sir B. Blood, K.C.B. ...…

p4854

OVERSEA COLONIALS.

CANADIAN CONTINGENT.

Lieut-Colonel T. D. B. Evans, C.B.

Captain T. H. Callaghan.

Lieutenant R. H. Ryan.

Lieutenant and Adjutant F. Church.

Squadron Serjeant-Major M. Docherty.

Serjeant D. P. Bliss.

OVERSEA COLONIALS—•continued.

[column 2, p4854]

CANADIAN "SCOUTS.

Major C. Ross, D.S.O.

Captain A. McMillan.

Captain T. H. A. Williams.

Serjeant-Major K. J. Stallwood.

Regimental Quarter-Master-Serjeant G. Saunders.

Private A. Chesworth.

The dispatch starts somewhere before page 4837 for that date and, starting at Generals and the Life Guards, covers MIDs for virtually every unit in the British Army! As each page requires a separate download to get past my ‘net nanny’ program, I didn’t go all the way back to the first page. The despatch ends on page 4858 with the following signature:

I have, &c.,

KITCHENER, General,

Commanding-in-Ghief,South Africa

I suspect that this is the only ‘citation’ which exists, as there do not appear to be any other references in the Gazette to your Bliss between 1 January 1901 and 30 December 1902. . But if you go to this site, you can do that at your leisure:

http://www.gazettes-...LISS%2c/start=1

Peter

[Northman]

Many thanks Peter for the info. Much appreciated. I will have to do some research to see if there are any unit diaries for the Boer War. Might be a tall order I think.

Tim

[censlenov]

Hi Tim

Another interesting fact i came across was that there was a Lt. D C F Bliss in the Midland Battalion during the Northwest canada rebellion i wonder if they're the same man? I'm going to keep looking for that citation now.

Cheers

Chris

[Northman]

Hi Tim

Another interesting fact i came across was that there was a Lt. D C F Bliss in the Midland Battalion during the Northwest canada rebellion i wonder if they're the same man? I'm going to keep looking for that citation now.

Cheers

Chris

[Northman]

Hi Chris

Yes it is the same man. He was a junior officer in the NWR. By 1989 he was a Maj and a reserve officer and was attached to the Yukon Field Force in 1898. He did go to the Boer War as an officer and came back. He went back again as an enlisted man and the was MID an awarded a DCM. He did serve again in the 1st WW and was commissioned briefly as an officer but finishing out the war as a senior NCO in service or veterarnian corps. He died in Scotland in the 1930's and was listed a Lt. Col. on his death certificate. Now that is interesting and how did he obtain such a rank ? He was commissioned by three sovereigns.

Tim