Mervyn Mitton Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 Most militaria collectors - particularly if they have an interest in uniform, will have a few Stable Belts from different forces. However, there are many units and with amalgamations the numbers can quickly mount. This makes it difficult to build-up a complete collection. Rhodesia was different - they had most of the Corps , Units and Regiments that you would expect with a British based Colony but in smaller numbers that allowed collecting. You also have the interest in the Imperial period up to 1965 and then the U.D.I. period to 1980. Some, of course, did not change - those that had a Crown or, Insignia did. I recently bought a collection that has most - but not all - of the stable belts in use. For reference I will show them here - and there are a couple I can't identify. They are all for sale - however, I won't put them on the Sale section - too limited in their appeal. Should anyone be interested in any IM me. I always use Col. Dudley Wall's Books on Rhodesia Units for ref. - he was a personal friend, but is now in the UK. He has also done ref. books on Sth. African Badges and British. FROM TOP : S.A.S. - ARMOURED VEHICLES REGT.. - GREY'S SCOUTS
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 A NICE SET OF RHODESIAN AFRICAN RIFLES + 2 AND 3RD. BNS.
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 NOT SURE ABOUT THESE - WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUGGESTIONS ?
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 2, 2011 Author Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) RHOD. LIGHT INF.. / RHOD. EDUCATION CORPS / RHOD. ARMY SERVICE CORPS RHOD. CORPS OF SIGNALS / RHOD. STAFF CORPS / RHOD.CHAPLAINS 1940-80 RHOD. ARTILLERY / RHOD. PAY CORPS / RHOD. DEF. REGT. 1973-80 RHOD. MEDICAL CORPS. / RHOD. MILITARY POLICE / RHOD. CORPS OF ENGINEERS NORTHERN RHODESIA REGT. / RHOD. DEFENCE REGT. (DUPLICATE) Edited August 2, 2011 by Mervyn Mitton
Timothy Posted August 2, 2011 Posted August 2, 2011 (edited) Any possibility that the Brown/Red/Brown is INTAF? Edited August 2, 2011 by Timothy
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 3, 2011 Author Posted August 3, 2011 Timothy - as far as I have been told - Intaf did not have a belt. Certainly I haven't been able to find a ref.. Perhaps it was thought to be too military. The other unit that didn't have a stable belt was the BSAP.
Timothy Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 Fair enough - this was nothing more than an educated guess based on the colour scheme. Tim
Timothy Posted August 3, 2011 Posted August 3, 2011 (edited) The second unidentified belt is Rhodesian Intelligence Corps - no doubt about this one. Looking further it seems the brown and red belt is Guard Force. Tim Edited August 3, 2011 by Timothy
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 4, 2011 Author Posted August 4, 2011 Excellent Tim - thankyou. Guardforce - with that colour scheme would seem very likely. I'll try to get confirmation. Don't know why I didn't pick-up on the Intelligence Corps - badge was a bit shiny and I didn't check further. The Intel. Corps badge is one of the rarest for UDI period and is expensive - this makes the belt just as good - so thankyou again !
Mervyn Mitton Posted August 5, 2011 Author Posted August 5, 2011 One of our members has shown interest in the SAS belt and has asked for further pictures. I thought I would post them here to show the full construction of the belt.
empiretocommonwealth Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) RHOD. LIGHT INF.. / RHOD. EDUCATION CORPS / RHOD. ARMY SERVICE CORPS RHOD. CORPS OF SIGNALS / RHOD. STAFF CORPS / RHOD.CHAPLAINS 1940-80 RHOD. ARTILLERY / RHOD. PAY CORPS / RHOD. DEF. REGT. 1973-80 RHOD. MEDICAL CORPS. / RHOD. MILITARY POLICE / RHOD. CORPS OF ENGINEERS NORTHERN RHODESIA REGT. / RHOD. DEFENCE REGT. (DUPLICATE) Hi Mervyn, I run the Empire to Commonwealth Project - and I'm after an image of the Chaplain's Corp belt. I wonder if you could send me a photo of it, please? If I show ye the page I have already done:http://empiretocommonwealth.webs.com/rhodesianarmysm.htm However ... I wonder if I could have a set of your images - as your belts show the buckles as well - would that at all be possible? I ALWAYS credit and would be pleased to link to a web page of your choice. Kind regards, + Anthony Edited October 5, 2011 by empiretocommonwealth
Mervyn Mitton Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 Dear Fr. Anthony - firstly, welcome to GMIC - you obviously have great knowledge and will be a welcome member. I will have the Chaplain's Stable belt photographed and will post a picture. You can probably take the images you require directly from my posts - if not please give me an email address. You will know that anything to do with Chaplain's is fairly rare - we do have access from time to time - I will let you know. With best wishes Mervyn
Mervyn Mitton Posted October 7, 2011 Author Posted October 7, 2011 Father Anthony. I am attaching some additional photos of the Chaplain's stable belt. Please let me know if you are unable to download from the Forum. You mention all of the other stable belts - do you need me to re-photograph them - or, again, can you take them from the post ? I will be happy to have them re-taken - however, this may take a little time as I am unable these days to take my own photos. Please let me know. Mervyn
rhodesianmilitaria Posted March 8, 2012 Posted March 8, 2012 The RhSAS stable belt is 1st issue. Comparison photos & descriptions can be seen here. http://www.rhodesianmilitaria.com/page16.html
vulcanxm603 Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Timothy - as far as I have been told - Intaf did not have a belt. Certainly I haven't been able to find a ref.. Perhaps it was thought to be too military. The other unit that didn't have a stable belt was the BSAP. Mervyn - I was a member of Internal Affairs on National Service and they did have a stable belt. It wasRed/off White/Red. Internal Affairs stable belt A Reference to the Internal Affairs dress codes and photos of the belt can be found on the following link: http://www.freewebs.com/dudleywall/dressregulations.htm Edited October 26, 2012 by vulcanxm603
rhodesianmilitaria Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Absolutely and the above stable belt is an excellent example.
Mervyn Mitton Posted October 28, 2012 Author Posted October 28, 2012 Vulcan - thankyou for that confirmation. Helps to clear a point. What about the BSAP not wearing a stable belt ? Welcome to GMIC - I hope we will see you here regularly. Mervyn
rhodesianmilitaria Posted October 29, 2012 Posted October 29, 2012 BSAP had a leather belt with brass buckle and I believe a white belt with silver buckle but no stable belts. Stand to be corrected as BSAP is not my area of collecting.
Mervyn Mitton Posted October 30, 2012 Author Posted October 30, 2012 No, I agree with you - and that it is how Col. Dudley Wall describes their belts in his book. Mervyn
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