3rd Class Order of the Auspicious Clouds medal question...

[Gunjinantiques]

Hi guys! I have a question. I have so little experience with higher class orders like this that I simply am not sure of the answer. This 3rd Class set came with two cravats, a large and a small. I've seen the small cravat for an Order of the Sacred Treasure before too. I assume it's used under the shirt collar so the medal can be worn close to the neck...Is this correct? Thanks in advance for your help.

John

[JapanX]

John - your assumption is absolutely correct.

All japanese orders in 3rd class (sacred treasure, rising sun, golden kite) had such variation of ribbon.

So naturally Manchu orders got it to.

My earliest time estimate for this smaller ribbon is 1920+

Nice 3rd class by the way.

I think this one marked M

Cheers,

Nick

[Gunjinantiques]

John - your assumption is absolutely correct.

All japanese orders in 3rd class (sacred treasure, rising sun, golden kite) had such variation of ribbon.

So naturally Manchu orders got it to.

My earliest time estimate for this smaller ribbon is 1920+

Nice 3rd class by the way.

I think this one marked M

Cheers,

Nick

Nick, you mean you think the smaller ribbon pre-dates the set? Also, the OMSA book says this medal was established in 1934, I assumed it would be from that year or later. And you're right, it has an "M" on top of the suspension knob. The set was purchased from the original owner in 1946 and I got it from the purchaser's son. It hasn't passed through too many hands.

[JapanX]

Nick, you mean you think the smaller ribbon pre-dates the set? Also, the OMSA book says this medal was established in 1934, I assumed it would be from that year or later.

I meant the year when "smaller ribbon with smaller oval clasp" design appeared.

Of course your smaller ribbon was manufactured between 1934 and 1945.

And thanks for info about the mark!