JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Let`s start with the ribbon. Colors of the ribbon of Showa piece (late 20s/30s) shoud look like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Obviously our piece have completely different coloring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) As we know earlier ribbons (Meiji/early Taisho) for sacred treasure order have more rich colors. Like this one Or this one Edited November 27, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) But I think it`s obvious that ribbon of our piece has nothing to do with these examples ' alt='' class='ipsImage' > ' alt='' class='ipsImage' > I checked all my ribbons and all ribbons in my scanatheca (a few thousands pieces) - this ribbon has unique, atypical coloring and moire pattern. That`s why I think that this could be not "an early" ribbon, but simply ribbon that was "made outside Japan". Edited November 27, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Interesting, that usually ribbons for sacred treasure that was made in Germany have more close coloring to the original. Like this ribbon (from 4th class sacred treasure that was issued in 1899 to German officer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Now about the most tricky question - dating of sacred treasures in two lower classes. Collector could use two more or less stable features Form of kanji on reverse Form of central mirror on obverse Let`s start with the reverse Meiji / Meiji-Taisho / Showa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Differences in the script are obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Now about form of central mirror. General rule will be "the bigger and less figured central mirror, the older the piece and vice versa" Meiji / Meiji-Taisho / Showa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 See how close central mirrors of late Meiji/eraly Taisho and Showa pieces? That`s why I am not so sure that this piece came from Showa epoch... See for yourself ' alt='' class='ipsImage' > ' alt='' class='ipsImage' > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Now this previosly mentioned British medal bar with 7th class sacred treasure. According to London Gazette Private George Charles Hogbin (1st Battalion, Scots Guards) was awarded with 7th Class on July 21, 1919. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 7th class?! I would never say (at least by this picture) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Let`s compare it with our piece Edited November 27, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Looks like piece in the German bar has slightly more figured mirror Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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