bigjarofwasps Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Other than the obvious GV1R & E11R effigy versions, how many different types of Police LSGC are there or is that it? Is there different Latin wording or anything like that?
Robin Lumsden Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 No variations in design.Early ones were in unplated nickel silver, while the current ones have rhodium plating.
bigjarofwasps Posted April 21, 2015 Author Posted April 21, 2015 No variations in design.Early ones were in unplated nickel silver, while the current ones have rhodium plating.Thanks Robin! Now you mention it I can see what you mean, the GV1R examples I come across do look slightly different in finish, but I'd always put that down to their age. I've also just noticed that the GV1R version was only issued for about 2 years and yet there seems to be no shortage of them, I would have thought they'd have been rarer. Where as, there must be literally millions of the E11R version? I wonder why they only started awarding the LSGC for police (regulars) in 1951, where as Specials examples go back to GVR? Does anyone know? Do any Edward VII examples exist I wonder?
mariner Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Believe this pretty much covers the various permutations of the Special Constable Long Service Medal. There are however, various examples of bars also issued.
mariner Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 ................and here are the two examples of the regular police LSGC. I believe it also displays the "unplated nickel silver, while the current ones have rhodium plating", , referred to by Robin? But I maybe wrong there?
Mervyn Mitton Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Rhodesians used a similar pattern Special Const. L.S. Medal.
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Rhodium plating shines like a mirror.I was awarded mine in 2000 and it still looks as good as the day it was presented ................... no tarnishing at all.Rhodium plating was also used on the rims of the 1939 Iron Cross !! As a point of interest, my grandfather was awarded the GVIR medal when it was instituted and my father was awarded the EIIR medal in 1975. Both are in unplated nickel silver.So the rhodium plating seems to have been introduced well into the present Queen's reign. I would guess not long before the year 2000.The GVIR medal is MUCH rarer than the EIIR one, so should be worth a lot more, IMHO.I suppose Police medals in general just aren't in that much demand by collectors these days. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Mine ....................................... 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 And shown beside my private purchase 'wearing' copies on the right .................................. of poorer quality. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 My grandfather's medals .............................. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 My grandfather in his early police days, not long after the end of the First World War, where he was severely wounded at the Battle of Arras in 1917 .................... 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Grandfather in his later days ................. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Family tradition ....................... grandfather, father and son. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Yours truly as an innocent young Sergeant in 1987 .................... 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Feeling the pressure as a Chief Inspector around 2005 ................. 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 And the day before retirement in 2008. Hallelujah !! 1
Robin Lumsden Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Not only the medals changed over time ..................... the cap badges got bigger and better too !! 1
Mervyn Mitton Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Robin - well done on a fine historical post. Apart from the info. on the medals , the changes in uniforms , badges etc. for your Force will be usefull reference for the future. Mervyn
bigjarofwasps Posted April 22, 2015 Author Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks Robin for sharing all this information and photographs with us, it is greatly appreciated!!!!!!
Robin Lumsden Posted April 22, 2015 Posted April 22, 2015 Thanks all for the comments.A pleasure to share a small part of my family history.
bigjarofwasps Posted April 23, 2015 Author Posted April 23, 2015 (edited) One further question, I have if anyone can answer it for me? Is why doesn't the naming on the Police LSGC include the Force to the Officer served with? Edited April 23, 2015 by bigjarofwasps
Robin Lumsden Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Good question. Probably just due to tradition. I have a 1911 Scottish Police Coronation Medal which just has 'P.C. J. Todd' on the rim ....................... no Force mentioned back then either.Each Force submits applications for it's eligible medal recipients on an annual basis, and the medals are duly delivered inscribed to the Force for local distribution. I suppose the 'powers that be' didn't deem it necessary to inscribe the name of the Force that the medals were being delivered to.Also ...................... it COSTS more to inscribe the name of the Force as well as the name of the recipient.
bigjarofwasps Posted April 25, 2015 Author Posted April 25, 2015 Seems such a shame that the naming doesn't include the Force, the Officer served in.
Tony Farrell Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Rhodium plating for this particular medal was introduced around 1980/1 Edited May 5, 2015 by Tony Farrell
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