Imperial Crested Plate with straps -c1800- Help ID please!?!

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

I'd love some thoughts on this....

i couldn't resist it... gulp!

Its in the USA but on its way to me.

it was described as an 'incomplete belt' 

These are the pics from the advert.

i reckon the crest is this one but wider...

so

I think this piece is no belt as the crest would not be worn sideways. If so this looks like it would be worn on the chest or even the back as a 'plate'. Then the straps angle down and are wrapped somehow. The straps look surely incomplete to some degree.

i haven't yet found a picture that's similar.... yet.

Hope you like Gents.

All replies appreciated.

tony

[Iver]

Try to look on some photos of horses

[Farkas]

Hi Iver

you tease!

ive been googling But so little info when results are for us Brits (ie English Language!)

 

ive tried breast plates and back plates and Cavalry uniforms....

 

Got a little clue for me??

 

Cheers tony

 

 

Edit

Read again - Horses!! On it!

Edited November 19, 2017 by Farkas
Horses!

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

Iver, thank you.

i don't know yet - I like the idea of a 'face' plate for a horse? Or 'chest' ?

tony

 

 

[Iver]

...look here..

...but i dont think it has to do something with army or imperial family or so. just a nice ornament for a draft horse...

[peter monahan]

I agree: almost certainly a piece of horse harness, though it coukld I suppose be for a military horse as easily as a civilian one.

[Farkas]

17 hours ago, Iver said:

...look here..

...but i dont think it has to do something with army or imperial family or so. just a nice ornament for a draft horse...

Iver, can't thank you enough for the picture....

9 hours ago, peter monahan said:

I agree: almost certainly a piece of horse harness, though it coukld I suppose be for a military horse as easily as a civilian one.

Appreciated both....

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Hi Gents obviously I hope it's old and maybe military or even Royal!

its the crest I thought made it worth a punt...

I'll post pics once I've got it....

tony

[Iver]

It was pretty common in that time that they used the crest, initials of emperor, national colours and the portraits of emperor and his family on everyday used objects as a sign of patriotism....

[Farkas]

Hi Gents

Today I was going to post a thread with some pics of my feuerwehr helmet.

I bought it together with this horse harness piece from an antique dealer in the US last year. I know they were from the same estate but hadn’t thought to actually connect the two

Having looked back at the replies here I realise a possible link between the two.....

i wonder if the harness was also a momento of service in the feuerwehr?

perhaps the horse that wore it also served!

 

Wurflach population :

I don’t suppose there were many of these....

cheers gents

tony