Unknown U-boat badge

[Luftmensch]

A very interesting U-bootkriegsabzeichen 1918 from a dealer's site.  I show a textbook Schott for comparison.

What confuses me is this is heavily pitted like a bad cast, but the detail and design on it are amazing! 

Look how the keel contours, and how the bow curves,  Look at the detail to the deck housings, or the stern rudder and flag.  Super crisp!

Is this an unknown type or a fake?  Were some of these cast?  If a fake are many badges turning up that look better than originals?  Can't say I've seen that with aviation badges, but heard that was true with some Third Reich badges.  Be very curious for your comments.

 

 

Edited January 31, 2018 by Luftmensch

[Luftmensch]

All the sub guys gone?

Going over the posts from 10 years ago, it seems that these should be die struck.

Brass alloys don't rust but can show corrosion, but I'm not sure what we're looking at here.

Otherwise this looks like an unusual "CE Juncker" badge Tim B posted from a Detlev N. catalog, which I repost below.  Top pair is another textbook Schott for comparison.

Tim B points out that in this CEJ the base of the radio mast in front extends forward, rather than back towards the stern as in the Schotts and Meybauers.  I also see the sloping keel and the extra detail in this die...

 

Edited February 1, 2018 by Luftmensch

[dond]

I have seen it stated on other forums that these were die cast, at least the Schott badges.  I have not seen period documentation to this effect.  Perhaps others will chime in.