Transkei mysteries.

[Marcon1]

Hi,

Does anyone know what these are.

They all have the Coat of Arms of Transkei on their back.

I can't find any information about these "medals/orders/decorations".

Pictures 2 and 3 have a front that looks like some Lebowa medals have and picture 4 has a Coat of Arms that looks a bit like the one from Kwazulu ?!?!?

With thanks.

Marcon1

Edited March 16, 2020 by Marcon1

[Arthur R]

1 is the Order of Transkei, 2 is the Order of the Aloe.

3 might be a military division of the Order of Transkei.  This is just a guess, based on the similarity of the star, and the coat of arms on the obverse being the Transkei Defence Force emblem.

[Marcon1]

Hi Arthur,

Thanks for the usefull information.

Order of Transkei (1987-94)
Awarded in five classes:

• Grand Cross (GCT) - gold
• Grand Officer (GOT) - silver
• Commander (CT)
• Officer (OT)
• Member (MT)

 

Any idea which class it is ??

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Order of the Aloe (1976-94)
In a single class.

Pictures are of 2 diff. - silver gilt and silver, thus 2 diff. classes ??

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On the 4th. one is says Pro Patria Medal. - Is that a clue to which class ??

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With thanks, Marcon1.

 

PS: Info on orders from your very usefull listings on the Internet (which I no longer can find, did you remove them or did you list them somewhere else ?)

maybe you should list them here on the forum for all to use and see (just an idea ).

Edited March 18, 2020 by Marcon1

[Arthur R]

Hi Marcon1

My actual knowledge of Transkei awards is pretty much limited to what's listed in the 2005 Consolidated Official Table of Precedence.  As the Order of Transkei badge looks gold and has a fitting for a neck ribbon, I would guess it's either the Grand Cross or the Commander.

Interesting that the photos show both gold and silver badges for the Order of the Aloe, as the table of precedence lists only one class.

I hadn't noticed the 'Pro Patria Medal' on the reverse of the badge.  No such Transkeian medal is listed in the table, nor is it on the defence force webpage about Transkei medals.  The ribbon fitting suggests that it was intended to be worn on the chest, so it was possibly either a medal, or perhaps a lower class of the Order of Transkei with an alternative name.

It's very frustrating trying to work out these old homeland awards!  Even the compilers of the table of precedence struggled, and added footnotes warning that in some cases they had not been able to trace the warrants for the awards, and that, in the absence of full information, some of those listed might actually never have been awarded.

Thanks for your enquiry about my website.  I'm pleased it has been useful to you.  As I have parted company with the host service provider, the site is currently offline, but I intend to find another service provider and re-launch it in due course.  

[Megan]

There could be space found on my server if you want...

[Marcon1]

Hiya, 

 

Here is another mystery item from Transkei - does anyone have any idea what it is (medal, order) ??

 

 

It was offered as a Lebowa Star for Distinguished Leadership, neck decoration.

But as it has a Transkei Coat of Arms on the back it's not, but what is it then ???

 

HELP !!

 

Marcon1.

[archie777]

It is the Order of the Transkei, but the class is still unknown. Will update as I get new information

[archie777]

The first medal with Transkei flag on, was a possible proto type, because there are no information on it.

 

The gold and silver decoration withthe aloe on, is the Orders of Transkei in different classes

 

The last one the Transkei Pro Patria Medal, no info even in the archives

[archie777]

Hi Marcon1,

 

Sorry for my silence, but I'm back on the site. I'm currently busy with a book on all Homelands Orders, Decorations and Medals. As soon as I'm done I will let you know. I'm waiting for more pictures and will add them. I will share 2 of my display boards. You can email me for any information and I will assist where I can

Regards

Archie777

Ciskei Prisons Medals

 

My other picture is unfortunately too large for upload. I have much more to put on display

[Marcon1]

Hi Archie,

 

First picture - full size or miniature ? - if full size, damn I just turned green (of jealousy 👽).

Did notice you have several medals double in the display - are there differences between them ? (for example: 2nd. row SA 2015 Centenary medal).

If willing to share pictures you should also contact Megan (Medals of the World) - I'm sure she will be very happy to use them on her website.

 

As for pictures for myself - see below list (just a few 😉)

 

Bophuthatswana Police Decoration for Distinguished Service. (TK) (1992-95)

Bophuthatswana  Prison Decoration for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96)
Bophuthatswana  Prison Decoration for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96)

Bophuthatswana  Prison Medal for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994)
Bophuthatswana  Prison Medal for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96)

Bophuthatswana Defence Force Medal for Distinguished Gallantry (1982-94)
Bophuthatswana Defence Force State President's Medal (1990-1994)

Ciskei Police Order of Ntaba kaNdoda (NKN) (1981-1995/1981-1994)

Ciskei Police CP Star (Cross) for Distinguished Leadership (SPDE) (1981-1995)
Ciskei Police CP Star for Distinguished Service (SPME) (1981-1995/1981-1994)

Ciskei Defence Force Pro Merito Medal (PMM)

Ciskei Defence Force CDF Long Service Medal (1988-1994) – 20 years

Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94)

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996)

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996)

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996)

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996)

Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996)

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service.

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service.

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service.

KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Gold)

KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Silver)

KwaNdebele Police KNP Order for Distinguished Leadership (1987-1995)

KwaNdebele Police KNP Medal for Distinguished Silver (1987-1995)

KwaNdebele Police Commendation Medal

Kwazulu Police KZP Star for Distinguished Leadership (SED) (c1982-1995)

Kwazulu Police King's Cross for Bravery (c1982-1995)

Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star of Excellence (SPA) (1990-94/1991-96)

Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Cross for Gallantry (CPV ??) (1990-94/1990-1996)

Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Distinction (SPO) (1990-94/1990-1996)

Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Merit – Officers (SPM) (1990-94/1990-1996)

Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Medal for Faithful Service: 30 Years (1990-94/1990-1996)

Lebowa Police LP Cross for Gallantry (1990-1995)

Lebowa Police LP Star for Distinguished Leadership (1990-1995)

Lebowa Police LP Star for Outstanding Service (1990-1995)

Lebowa Police LP Establishment Medal (c1990)
Transkei Police TP Decoration for Distinguished Service (c1985-1995)

Transkei Police TP Cross for Bravery (CT) (1975-c1986)

Transkei Police TP Gallantry Cross (c1985-1995)

Transkei Police TP Medal for Combating Terrorism (c1985-1994)

Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (35 Years) (1985-94) (c1985-1995)
Transkei Police TP Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1976-85) (1975-1985) - 30 years service.

Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (20 years) (1985-94) (c1986-1995)
Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Excellence (c1988-1996)

Transkei Prison Service TPS Gallantry Cross (c1988-1996)

Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Distinction (c1988-1996)

Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94) (c1988-1996) - 35 years

Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1982-87) (c1982-1987)
For 30 years service.

Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (30 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996)
For 30 years service.

Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (20 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996)
For 20 years service.

Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - gold
Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - silver
Venda Police VP Distinguished Service Medal

Venda Police VP Outstanding Service Medal

Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPV) – Gold (1985-1996)

Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPF) - Silver (1985-1996)

Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Gold (SPO) (1985-1996)

Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Silver (SPM) (1985-1996)

Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Gold (1985-1996) - 30 years faithful service.

Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Silver (1985-1996)-20 years faithful service.

 

 

Any pictures (front & back / obverse & reverse) would be welcome.

Also any information on the ribbons of the Prison medals (very hard to find).

 

With many thanks.

 

Marcon1.

[archie777]

Hi Marcon1

 

All full size, as I don't have space for the miniatures.

 

Will try to get more pictures on my mobile, that I can start sharing

Hi Marcon1,

 

Those doubles are all variations. I had once 4 of each Honoris Crux, but cut down due to a lack of space. I have more awards that must go on display, but the book keeps me very busy for now

[Marcon1]

Hi Archie,

 

I just realized that I do not know what is what with Ciskei Prison medals.

 

 

Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94)                            - picture 9

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996)     - picture 6 (?)

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996)     - picture 7 (?)

Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996)              - picture 8 (?)

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996)                      - picture 4 (?)

Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996)              - picture 5 (?)

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service.     - picture 1

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service.     - picture 2

Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service.     - picture 3

 

Did I identify them correctly ?

 

Regards, Marcon1.

[archie777]

Currently close to midnight here. Will get back tomorrow. Everybody is already sleeping

[Marcon1]

10 minutes to midnight here to, but sunday tomorrow 😁

[archie777]

Hi Marcon, 

Yes you ID them correctly. Will share the others now

[archie777]

I couldn't find any information in Warrants of Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei

Transkei Pro Patria Medal

I couldn't find any information in Warrants of Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei

Name unknown and its not the Order of Transkei.

 

Will cover the Order of Transkei tomorrow

I couldn't find any information in Warrants or Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei

Cross for Gallantry/Bravery (Gold)

 

There is also a silver Cross for Gallantry/Bravery

[archie777]

Macron1,

 

Unfortunately no pictures of the Order of the Aloe, but a drawing

 

It was actually manufactured in 18ct gold and awarded to State President Marais Viljoen

[archie777]

Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available

 

Order of Transkei, Class I, Grand Cross (Gold) (GCT)

 

The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes.

 

Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available

 

Order of Transkei, Class II, Grand Officer (Silver) (GOT)

 

The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes.

[archie777]

Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available

 

Order of Transkei, Class III, Commander (CT)

 

The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes.

Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available

 

Order of Transkei, Class IV, Officer (OT)

 

The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes.

[archie777]

Unfortunately drawings, but will add colour pictures where available

 

Order of Transkei, Class V, Member (MT)

 

The Warrant state 5 equal stripes, but it was approved and manufactured with 7 equal stripes

Just a correction, Class I to Class III was never manufactured with green enamel in the roundel. Attached you'll find the insignia for Class I and II. Class II is the same, but only in silver

[archie777]

Class I and II is gold and Class II is silver

[archie777]

I only notice now that I posted the ribbon for the Order of the Aloe with all the Order of Transkei Classes

 

Here is the correct ribbon for all classes of the Order of Transkei

Sorry wrong on Classes II to V