saschaw Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 (edited) One more, now without any tricks. I recently got this nice old style ribbon bar. The ribbons are for an Anhalt house order, apparently a Württemberg long service award, the Anhaltian reign jubilee medal and a merit medal from Schaumburg-Lippe. That combination is pretty odd, I'd say. I have no idea about how that last awards makes sense - or may it be anything foreign with a "close enough" ribbon?! In RL 1913, I was able to find a Württemberg officer with nothing else but an "AB3a": Rittmeister d. L. Schuler, Landwehrbezirk Stuttgart, I. Aufgebot, Train, with the (Württ.) LD1. He has the same in 1909 and I could find him neither in the 1904/05 nor in the 1906/07 Ordens-Almanach. Would it make any sense this is his? Or does anyone have other suggestions? Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeikoGrusdat Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 .....same awards in 1914 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) Thanks heiko. Any opinions or suggestions on the ribbon bar? I'd wonder if it's him, but who else? That Schaumburg merit medal... Is it a Württemberg long service ribbon at all? Looks like, smells like... I found not more than exactly one who received it in Württemberg military, and that's not "my" guy. Apparently he was not yet there when he got it... Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 If there are hooks on the back, than odds are 90% it was not a ribbon bar but an enlisted level medal bar that has lost all its awards.I do not have the rolls for the Schaumburg awards possible on that ribbon, and nobody has Anhalt rolls that I'm aware of.Best guess? Albert the Bear MEDAL, a W?rttemberg long service award, Anhalt Jubilee, Schaumburg Merit Medal = some sort of Hoflakai who'd moved from W?rttemberg.An Anhalt Hof- und- Staatshandbuch 1913/14 should identify this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) No Rick, as I said - a ribbon bar, so no hooks and no traces of decorations ever been worn on it. That style is mostly found on officers, but there were as well some NCOs... and people like paymasters. I think that may be it, a Paymaster. I know where I find Württemberg units, but where to looks for Anhalt people? Only in IR 93? Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 But then the W?rttemberg long service excludes somebody IN the Anhalt regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saschaw Posted April 9, 2009 Author Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty convinced now it is Schuler's bar. In an old "Orden und Ehrenzeichen" (#38 of German "JOMSA") I found Schuler's medal bar, with a perfectly research by Peter Ohm-Hironymussen on him. The Schaumburg ribbon apparently was used as a close enough for Mecklenburg-Strelitz' Kriegervereinsmedaille Schuler was awarded in 1908 as Vorsitzender of Kavallerieverein Dessau. Grand Duke Adolf Friedrich VI. of Mecklenburg-Strelitz' mother was from Dessau, and there's the link. Schuler was born in Stuttgart but later lived and worked in Dessau. However, I have no idea why he is not listed at Bretzendorfer. Odd story, and yet fully researched... Edited August 1, 2023 by saschaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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