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    Posted

    Hello, everyone!

     

    Recently I got an order of the red eagle simplified award document and an envelope.

     

    The seller told me it is a simplified version. So this is the reason why I can't find any German Reich eagle markings or decorative contents on the file? In addition, the paper shows other letters in the light. I can't be sure of the authenticity of this document. This is very disturbing to me. 

     

    He told me a name: Lehmann on the envelope. I can't discern anything else, can anyone help me read the rest of the useful information, such as the unit he was in and his rank, much appreciated!

     

    The document as below.

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    Letters in light display

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    The envelope. I think the logo on top of the envelope is very elaborate, but I can't find any stamp on top of the document, which is very disturbing to me!

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    Posted

    It looks like a request from the order's office. The text goes something like this (German): Anliegend übersenden wir den von Seiner Majestät dem Könige bei dem diesjährigen Krönungs- und Ordensfeste Ihnen verliehenen Roten Adlerorden 4. Klasse mit dem Ersuchen, das anliegende Formülar ausfüllen und baldigst an uns zurückgeben zu wollen. And transfer: We enclose the Order of the Red Eagle, 4th Class, awarded to you by His Majesty the King at this year's Coronation and Order Festival, with the request that you complete the attached form and return it to us as soon as possible. 

    The last image shows the recipient's description. German: An den Kaiserlichen Hofrat, Geheimen Sekretär Ahiffreur im Auswärtigen Amt Herrn Lehmann, Bei der Behörde abgeben. And translate: To the Imperial Court Councillor, Privy Secretary, Assistant Secretary in the Foreign Office, Mr. Lehmann, Submit to the authorities.

     

    Hopefully someone else can improve or correct my translation.

    Posted
    1 hour ago, svapr said:

    It looks like a request from the order's office.

    Dear SVAPR

    I thank you very much for your patience in replying! It seems then that this is not a award document, not even a simplified one, but only a letter of notification, which is very disappointing to me.

    If this type of paper is still considered rare, then I can grudgingly accept the result.

    14 minutes ago, VtwinVince said:

    As stated above, not an award document, but a notification of award from the orders chancellery.

    Dear VtwinVince

    Thank you for your reply! This makes me feel that I have been fooled by the seller, although the paper does relate to the order of the red eagle, it is not enough to be a certificate, I spent almost €105 to get it, which upsets me, the seller's description is very ambiguous, which is wrong!

    This makes me feel that I have been fooled by the seller, although the paper does relate to XXX, it is not enough to be a certificate, I spent almost €105 to get it, which upsets me, the seller's description is very ambiguous, which is wrong!
    I see that there is an official document on sale for 227 euros, I might as well add some money to that one!

    I'm sad to have spent money on this stuff.😭

    Posted

    Hello Joci. Don't be disappointed! Consider the following. While the material sources of phaleristics (i.e. awards), which are the focus of collectors' attention, are given sufficient attention, written and pictorial sources are given much less. The letter (deed) you have is an interesting document of that time. This cover letter and other correspondence usually inform the person concerned that he was awarded and under what conditions he can receive the award. There are also known cases where the awardee received only this decision and had to purchase the award at his own expense. Yes, the price is high. However, the time when no one wanted this type of paper has changed. Today, on the contrary, awards, as well as documents, decrees and other paper monuments that belong to them, are in trend.

    And another interesting thing. You can see on the watermark who made the paper. It was Hannoversche Papierfabriken Alfeld-Gronau Aktiengesellschaft. The company was founded on August 11, 1872. 

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