Help identifying unit

[dante]

Can any kind soul identify this unit, many thanks Paul

[svapr]

I think it's the 23rd Infantry Regiment, 2nd Company, 4th Battalion.

[dante]

Many thanks where did you get the 23rd from?

[svapr]

Hello, well, if this is the correct lambert, then here it is: https://forum.pages14-18.com/viewtopic.php?t=17605&start=10 (23 RI (31.07.1914)

[dante]

Thanks..Not sure it’s the same lambert , this medal is from 1870 siege of Paris 

[No one]

Dear Gentlemen,

 

The 23e régiment d'infanterie (23e RI)  was nowhere near Paris.

 

23e régiment d'infanterie (France) — Wikipédia  Google translation:

 

"Franco-Prussian War of 1870–1871

 

At the beginning of the 1870 war, he belonged to the 1st Brigade (General Pouget then Mangin) of the 2nd Division (General Bataille then Fauvart-Bastoul) of the 2nd Corps (General Frossard) of the Army of the Rhine.

 

Being of the 2nd corps, the regiment took part in all the main battles in Lorraine. He took part in the offensive reconnaissance on Saarbrücken on 2 August, unnecessarily occupying Exerzir Platz until the 5th, when he withdrew on orders to the heights from Stiring to Spicheren. On the 6th, he was at these two places in the battle of Forbach-Spicheren, obliged to retreat before the enemy and sometimes in disorder. Then after several defeats, it was the ebb on Metz. On the afternoon of the 19th, the 2nd Division moved to the southern slopes of Fort Saint-Quentin, which had not yet been completed. This was the beginning of the siege. On 26 August, a desire to break out led the 2nd Corps to cross Metz to move between the farm of Bellecroix and the ravine of Vantoux. The operation was cancelled and the corps came to settle on the southern limit of the Sablon and Montigny, between Seille and Moselle, along the main length of the railway, a location it would keep until the end. The Bataille division occupied the south of Montigny, between the old Metz-Nancy road (the current national road 57) and the railway linking these two towns, the 23rd line being to the east of the system, near the famous bridge. Each division created a company of partisans. The 23rd Line provided a section under the orders of Lieutenant Coron. It was quartered in the large locomotive roundhouse of Montigny. On August 31st and September 1st, it was the disappointing "outing" of Noisseville. On the first day, the 23rd of the line, between Flanville and Saint-Agnan, had little to intervene but its section of partisans went to cut down all the servants of a very dangerous battery. The next day, orders and counter-orders multiplied the actions of the 23rd Line at Coincy before returning to the bridge abutment.

On October 28, the surrender of the Army was signed.

The next day, in pouring rain, the 23rd Infantry Regiment left Metz via the Sablon and the road to Magny to reach the farm of Saint-Thiébault where it became a prisoner of war.

On August 16, 1870, the 4th Battalion, mostly made up of new arrivals, left the depot to create the 7th Marching Regiment, which in September became the 107th Infantry Regiment which would form the 2nd Brigade of the 1st Division of the 13th Army Corps and took part in the First Battle of Châtillon on 19 September. On 17 November 1870, the battle of Torçay took place where a marching company of the 23rd of the line which made up the 36th marching regiment was engaged.

On 6 January 1871, the marching company of the 23rd Infantry Regiment, which made up the 36th Infantry Regiment, was engaged in the Gué-du-Loir affair."

 

Yourts sincerely,

No one

 

 

[No one]

Dear Gentlemen,

 

I don't think it's the same Lambert.

 

It's unlikely that E. Lambert would still be a lieutenant 44 years later if he had been a lieutenant in 1870.

What age might he have been?  23 in 1870 and 67 in 1914?

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

 

 

[The Prussian]

Hello!

I checked the french rank lists from 1870 and 1873.

1870: Sec.Lt. Émile Lambert (prom. Oct.2, 1862), in 4th Imperial Guard Infantry Regiment, Paris

1873: Lt. Émile Lambert (prom. Aug.9, 1870) in 14th Inf.Rgt., Amiens

[No one]

Dear Gentlemen,

 

The unit could also be the "4e Bataillon de la Garde Nationale".

 

Garde Nationale, 4e Bataillon, Sein-et-Oise, Commandant Dore - André Adolphe-Eugène Disdéri — Google Arts & Culture

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

[svapr]

Hello, I answered your question incompletely. I was looking for Lambert and didn't realize that the medal is related to the 19th century, not the First World War.