Organisational Badges Deutscher Siedlerbund (DSB)

[BURGERHAUS]

Good evening gents, I attended a show this past weekend which I hardly ever do and there were two things that stuck-out in my mind. The first was the large number of enamel KdF membership badges with appropriate markings (all of a sudden so many examples?) and the large number of DSB membership badges with the red enamel background instead of the black. They all had the Aurich hallmark and a large circle on the reverse for the pin attachment. But, and this is a big but...they all ahd that narrow pin attachment similar to Hoffstatter/Bonn and the NSLB. Here are my 2 examples and what I was hoping to see was a red enamelled Aurich with the standard ges.gesch. pin attachment. Please post your examples. Thank you. Robert

 

 

[BURGERHAUS]

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Now here is my gold bordered piece. It is unmarked except for the pin attachment.

 

 

[BURGERHAUS]

Notice the difference in the red enamelling on the roofs of the houses.

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Notice the diference in the obverse.

 

 

[Scowen]

Very interesting info Robert thanks. When you say narrow pin plate, do you mean the very narrow clipped type we see on modern badges, or the more oval period style plate?

Can't help with this thread as I don't yet have one, hopefully others will chip in though.

Cheers

Don

[BURGERHAUS]

[attachmentid=27875]Don, The red background style all had plates like this....Robert

 

[Scowen]

Thanks for the clarification. I've never heard of ones with red backgrounds to start with (but other may have as this isn't one of the badges I've studdied yet), & I don't like the sound of these oval plates being used. I think caution & more investigating is needed but I suspect that they are new fakes....

Cheers

Don

[JNoble]

The only example of this badge I have is this painted version.

 

[Scowen]

I tend to avoid the painted or lacquered versions as they've never really appealed to me. However this badge James is very fine, thanks for showing it.

Cheers

Don

[Scowen]

btt for Robert

Cheers

Don

[Peter J]

James, I'm curious about the Aurich logo on the badge you've posted. The upper part of the letter A takes the shape of a full circle, contrary to what I'm familiar with i.e. a "half-circle" if you get my meaning. Are there any other items known with this particular logo?

cheers

Peter

[BURGERHAUS]

Peter James will probably chime in after all of us are retired for the evening. Don, sorry about that. I couldn't remember if I had posted the DSB before or not. Brain Freeze! Robert

[Scowen]

No problem Robert, in fact I didn't realise that I hadn't posted mine.

Cheers

Don

 

[Scowen]

Reverse

 

[Scowen]

I also have a mitgliedsbuch.

 

[BURGERHAUS]

Don Very nice. Are there dues stamps inside? Thanks for showing this as it is not often encountered. Robert

[Scowen]

Yes Robert, it's stamped from 1938 through '44. If I remember I'll scan some next time I have the scanner fired up.

Cheers

Don

[JNoble]

Peter,

I understand what your saying about the logo and I have no explanation other than it may have something to do with a change of dies and a new die-maker that was used on this run of lacquered pins.

[Peter J]

James, perhaps I focus on the wrong details, so I'll elaborate my thoughts.

We all know designs could differ, due to the creation of new dies. However the design of the manufacturer's logos remained pretty much the same. The Aurich logo has been frequently encountered on modern fakes, with both textbook appearencies and variations (like i.g. the one posted on WAF with an H looking like an 8). I'm not suggesting the type you've shown is a fake, but merely that we should try to find a different badge with identical logo, in order to establish some sort of legitimacy for this particular logo.

I've made a scan of Assmann's logo to illustrate. The top right image is from a PAB (the top circle is positioned above the top bar and it has long lower bars). The top left image is from a LW summer eagle (small A with DRGM). It's close to identical, apart from the top bar, which is centered through the circle. The bottom image is from a LW summer eagle (large A, no DRGM). Although almost identical to the former, this type is generally considered a fake, mainly due to great numbers appearing several years ago (at least that's what I've been told . But if we look closely, we'll notice the logo is significantly different i.e. the top circle is void and the lower bars are almost non existent. In all fairness it should be mentioned a third original design i.e. similar to type#2, but with additional vertical bars on the center bar.

Who knows, maybe this is of no significance, but at least it kept me busy for a while

cheers

Peter

 

[JNoble]

Peter,

I finally got around to getting a closer look at the Aurich logo on my badge and it isn't a full circle as it appears in the picture I posted earlier here is a close-up of the logo see what you make of it.

 

[Peter J]

James, that's a world of a difference. Another ghost chase from my part

cheers

Peter

[JNoble]

Peter,

Your question about the logo wasn?t without merit from what you saw in the picture in the first post as it looked the same to me also, after looking at the actual badge under magi faction I believe the reason for it?s odd circler appearance is do lacquer buildup in the edges of the logo.

James.

[Wood]

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[Scowen]

A nice & interesting piece Pete. From what I can see the dot pattern in the house roof is different from what is usually found on these Hoffstätter marked pieces. Usually they are a much more defined set of dots in rows of 4 x 4, yours appears (it could be the picture) to be 6 x 4.... However fear not, the rest of it & especially the reverse set up is exactly how I would expect it to be, so this is quite a rare manufacturer's variant. very nice.

Cheers

Don

[Wood]

No problem about combining the threads Don. It may be just my scanner that makes it look different. I will dig it out and have another look.

Pete