Fake FAKE Order of the Rising Sun

[utopis]

I thought we discussed this fake extensively already (-> http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/52001-fakes-quality-slowly-and-not-expertly-is-on-the-raise/page-18) But since this fake still sells for ridiculous amounts maybe we should have a look on it, again.

Just look at that: $1.150 already!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-2nd-CLASS-ORDER-of-RISING-SUN-MEDAL-BREAST-BADGE-JAPANESE-JAPAN/380907055647?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D7008464255839801309%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D380907055647%26clkid%3D7008466890564561789&_qi=RTM1562569

By the way another one for our list of fake sellers - this atrocity is described as 100% original (and to describe it as "beautiful" is an act of sacrilege against the whole collector-hood).

This fake is the whole package:

-incorrect shape (white rays don't match the length of the star base)

-very bad gilt paint

-low quality white enamels

-very low quality red enamel cabochon (the real one isn't dull, it's like a red mirror)

-screws look like they were bought from the hardware store

-wrong stamp pattern of the seals

-very low quality hinge

-star base has an irregular shape

-cut-out was made very crudely

-the fake patina colour doesn't look like a real patina

[JapanX]

100% fake.

No doubt about it!

[RAINBOW CHOCOLATE]

a sad state of affairs, what's next?

[JapanX]

Phaleristical Apocalypse is coming?

[pieter1012]

I know the seller to be honest, who also has quite some knowledge on Japanese orders and medals. I have often bought from him and have always been very satisfied with what I got.

Perhaps he had a lapse with this one, but to put him immediately in the same category of those who really sell fakes on ebay, does him, in my opinion, no justice.

Pieter

[JapanX]

Perhaps he had a lapse with this one, but to put him immediately in the same category of those who really sell fakes on ebay, does him, in my opinion, no justice.

Of course not!

We all make mistakes

[utopis]

Maybe...

Still it's his listing saying 100% original. That's just sloppy

Additionally: He is now informed so if he doesn't take down the listing he still sold a fake which, technically seen, is the essence of a fakes seller.

[JapanX]

Yep, it would be nice to know what Rich is thinking about this piece

[RAINBOW CHOCOLATE]

The explanation should prove to be an interesting one.

[JapanX]

-screws look like they were bought from the hardware store

They are currently working on it

[JapanX]

Top-shelf stuff!

[RAINBOW CHOCOLATE]

Was there ever an explanation from the seller?

[RAINBOW CHOCOLATE]

Fake rising sun medals have a signature and constant metallic "shine", the fake that was offered here has the exact same metallic shine, bumping the thread so folks can compare.

[RAINBOW CHOCOLATE]

Take note of the red cloisonné enamel on this fake rising sun breast star (pictures in top posting), if you learn to recognize the fake cloisonné metallic shine it can save you much heartache. I only point this out to help others avoid some pain.