Jurgen Fritz Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) Hello Gents,Greetings I got this Pair of "German? foldable Iron Boot Pulls / Stiefel anzieher"(cleaned up) I think they could be 1 WW or before..any Idea when they are first used in 1800s? similar ones are still sold for Riders today originally "Chromium plated" Any Friendly Answer very appreciated! Regards Jurgen PS.: I remember my Grandmother had a "foldable" Iron Corkscrew the Joints where the same and I think this was from End 1800-1900? Best Jurgen Edited March 10, 2018 by Jurgen Fritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 I guess they where Private Purchased by Cavalry Soldiers? Perhaps even by Army (.Officers) since enlisted Men had short Marching Boots? Thanks & Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trooper_D Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 What indicates to you that these might be military rather than civiliam, Jurgen, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Hi Trooper D, well that's my Question actually: Since my Guess they (like many other Officer Equipment!) had to purchased Privatly no Doubt this Boot Pulls could be also Bought by Civilians wearing long tight fitting Boots..my Question also:when they first did appeare ,I think could be in the mid 1800 s? (I seen some with wooden Handles & "Pearshape Finals" surly older) ..Modern folding Boot Pulls have not the round Final prevent they slip out. I got this from a Friend told me his Grandfather (Prussian Hussar) used them in 1910 about? My Grand Uncle was in the same Unit 15.Hussars. so: where the Boot Pulls given to any Trooper, ( would make sense since the high Boots are not easy to pull on as You perhaps found out yourself)??.maybe You know more or found out? Thanks for Your Interest best Regards Jurgen P.S.:I just bought another Pair (in better Shape) Seller claims they also from his Relative 1WW this folding Type similar with different Joints 2 WW? sometimes turn up on ebay always as 1WW or 2 WW Equipment..there was also not folding ones in Steel or Aluminium Picture come soon.. Edited March 18, 2018 by Jurgen Fritz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 German "military?"Boot Pulls : left 1 WW - on the right 2 WW? Different Joints,perhaps interesting? Best Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 P.P.S.: Hi Gents,here a Pair of Bootpulls (in Steel) but give in Aluminium The German (used in Military? 2 WW) marked D.E.P. or D.R.P. etc.(Deutsches Reichs Patent) any Idea about the military use Please? Many Thanks Jurgen German marked Boot pulls 2 WW used by Wehrmacht ect? Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 18, 2018 Author Share Posted March 18, 2018 Hi Gents,here a Pics of the 15.th Prussian Hussar Regiment about 1910 of my Grand Uncle,maybe interesting? Regards Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 08:38, Jurgen Fritz said: Hello Gents,Greetings I got this Pair of "German? foldable Iron Boot Pulls / Stiefel anzieher"(cleaned up) I think they could be 1 WW or before..any Idea when they are first used in 1800s? similar ones are still sold for Riders today originally "Chromium plated" Any Friendly Answer very appreciated! Regards Jurgen PS.: I remember my Grandmother had a "foldable" Iron Corkscrew the Joints where the same and I think this was from End 1800-1900? they shall be "hand forged!"Size similar to Bootpull 11cm open x 6,5 cm closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurgen Fritz said: Same "Hinged Forget Corkscrews" are around since the 1700 s! (more ornate ) some English have the "Broad arrow" so military? I wonder if Boot pulls with this Hinge where around in 1700 s - and why not? Any INFO very appreciated! Jurgen Here the "ornate Hinge" of a 1700.s Corkscrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I've seen similar 'pulls' here in North America and suspect they were common from the mid 1700s or so, when tight fitting riding boots came into fashion. Still available for riders, I believe and, absent any markings probably impossible to say for sure whether they are civilian or military, but a prwetty standard piece of equipment for at least a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Hi Peter Monahan! Thanks for Your Interest,,Yep I come to they same Conclusion,others as the "Straight Pulls with wooden Handle) the Forget twisting locking with a "Snap"Hinges are Interesting,cannot found out if there is any Patent on them,maybe just in 1700 s some Black/Locksmith had this Idea.Yes Y' right they still can be purchased today in Equestrian Shops with similar now straight Hinges no round finals (and the antique for about £20 a Pair) I'am sure the Military used them on Campaign since easy to stow away..but not "Issue",rather private Purchased. Best Wishes Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Agreed: soldiers, even rankers, were smart enough to buy things which made life easier, and clever NCOs to ignore 'non-issue, non-regulation' bits which weren't actually dangerous or illegal. Edited March 22, 2018 by peter monahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hi Peter, In my West German Army Volonteer Time (1960 s) Recrut's had to buy many Things them self,like: Boot Polish,Toothpaste Coat hangers,writing Materials (if want:Marching Straps for Boots )ect .ect.all available in the Cantine..Our short "Dicebeaker Boots "don't need Bootpulls but such where not "forbitten to Own".. any Barrack room had also a "Stiefelknecht" to pull the boots off. (I still owe one today since wearing all the Time a Pair of soft Chrom Russian Officer Boots very comfy.) Allowed was also to wear Private purchased Boots They just had (to match up) the Front Iron to fix (by the Civilian Bataillon Coppler) they also fixed "Heel Iron" to pay fore..allowed in the West Army (Not like in the East NVA)they not repaired Boots when worn gave new ones,I I believe this is now also in the today "Bundeswehr"They abandoned now the "Dicebeaker" after over 140 Years! Officers got some "Allowance" but still had to purchased there Uniform ect. some of my NCO Comrades bought Extra "Gala Uniform" Best Jurgen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen Fritz Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Hi Gents, Here a German Business Letter from 1940 about the "Klapphaken" folding Boot Pulls"ending with the then usually "Heil H.!" Regards Jurgen On 3/10/2018 at 08:38, Jurgen Fritz said: Hello Gents,Greetings I got this Pair of "German? foldable Iron Boot Pulls / Stiefel anzieher"(cleaned up) I think they could be 1 WW or before..any Idea when they are first used in 1800s? similar ones are still sold for Riders today originally "Chromium plated" Any Friendly Answer very appreciated! Regards Jurgen PS.: I remember my Grandmother had a "foldable" Iron Corkscrew the Joints where the same and I think this was from End 1800-1900? Best Jurgen P.S. I selling them just now on ebay for Start:£12 + Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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