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yeah i was thinking that myself! going to take a look at ancestry again tonight and see if i cant find his service records and pension records as we has invalided out of the army!

thanks for that im planing to get a few other people researched so i can add that to the list i do know he was very badly wounded in the left knee so much so he got invalided out of the army! :beer:

amazing info on that!!!! amazing what one name on the back of a medal can bring up!! :beer:

and MIC card!!!

and his wound badge! also a nice sweetheart cap badge for the lancs!!!

his trio! sorry for the pic i had to do them with my camera on my phone!!

although it was only this year is started to get into british medal collecting i always knew we still had my great grandfather medals from ww1! he was in the 1/east lanc regiment!! and only joined in 1911 as it was the army or being a farm laborer!! i didnt know to much only that he got wounded very early in the war and that this meant he to invalided out of the army by i think 1917(and from what my grand says it was the best mornings work he ever did cos he got to hang out paris for 6 months!! ) so when i finally got to see them at the start of the month it was really strange but really cool as while i have other people medals this is my family's only medals! \my uncle currently has them but while he isnt to interested in them he is interested in family history so hopefully they will stay in the family! i do have on question,iv been trying to find his enlistment and pension records on ancestry but so far i have been able to find a match!i know he enlisted in 1911 as i have a copy of his soldiers book and a pic of him just after he enlisted(which handily is over in my girlfriends house and shes away for a month!!) so is there any chance of an help to narrow him down or even a point in the right direction would be great! so any help would be fantastic!thanks and here is the pic of his 1914 star where he was wounded and his wound badge which is listed lost on the MIC card!!! ;)

here yah go!!!!!! :beer:

so is it to be awarded for death?if so how is then is it to be worn???by next of kin?

in ireland they go for anything up to E550(not sure what online dealers do them for though!) how ever they are pretty common and i reckon there over valued!(you can find them all the time at fairs and dealers shops and the quantity of them hasnt gone down but price has gone up!) but with a bit of family history that will help the value though you need iron clad providence to prove that the medal is to the family medal otherwise its just a story im afraid!

thats why i cant find anythinks!thanks for the info though!il try the route of contacting the reg mesuem!thanks again!

is this the right section as nothing seems to be coming up!!!!!and the annoying thing is i have seen other people with the same first or last name awarded the BEM!!!!! http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/browse-refine.asp?CatID=22&searchType=browserefine&pagenumber=1&query=*&queryType=1 (the national archives always stump me!!!!) thanks for any help!! oh and it was announced in the LG in july of 46!!

really!!!Fantastic il take look so!!!thanks for that!! :beer:

and the rest of the rim! so is there any chance of find out why it was awarded? maybe unit history local papers if i can find him?? thanks for any help!! :beer:

name on rim!!

pretty sure i know the answer but never hurts to ask!!picked up this nice BEM group to a S/SGT Claude Paterson R.A.S.C on another forum and while its not to any mad cool unit i really wanted a BEM group and this fit the bill but i was wondering i have where it announces where he has been awarded the BEM in the london gazette but not why!i was reading that the later war BEMs just like the late war ww1 MMs dont have the citation as to why it was awarded!is there any hope of finding out how it was won???any help would be great!!

thanks for that mike!thought it was something like that!!!still interesting that the serial number on the number is the lower one!have to find out about the london regiment might be able to find out more about him!!thanks again!!! :beer:

picked a nice victory medal up there today and when i got his MIC it shows 3 numbers on it, just wondering are these 3 numbers 3 separate service numbers or 3 different reg number as looks like he moved about abit! the name on the rim is 3012 PTE A.N.CHARROSIN. 7-LONDON.R. looks like he was in the london reg the machine gun corps and the royal engineers!! quite interesting!dont think on his MIC theres anything other then the medal roll!also would it be normal to have 3 separate numbers when you moved??(id say it was just want to make sure!!)interesting though is that the lower number is on the medal! any help on this would be great!! :beer:

james i am sorry that you think i am a time waster but believe it or not i have checked those names but have only been able to take one name off this list(vitor darwin if its the same person i found via wiki as he had ww1 service and died in 72 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Victor_Darwin ), all i have access to is google(which is VERY hit and miss!!) and the medal year book and the national archive(which you can from what i understand only look at the records from ww1 and back) i honest dont even know how you managed to come up with these names for this bar but i am VERY grateful for you taking the time and effort to do that!any and all help is greatly appreciated and i always say to people who help me out that if theres anything i can do in return please just! i would LOVE to be able have the knowledge of researching british stuff but iv only started to actively collect it in the last 3\4 months having mostly collected german militaria and that field has limit research for the normal everyday soldier! ,so again i am extremely grateful for the help you gave me and as i said if there is anything i can do in return please just ask!

yeah i was thinking about trying that first before i send it chris!!! i spent about 20 minutes on sunday wrecking my eyes(think there only back to normal now!!) and im pretty sure theres a 5 in there to so it would be 29-59 so far!!!

but what about the missing devices? looks like theres a 2nd MM rosette and then MID and 8 army number!do any of the people have these? these devices would really narrow it down to a few people if not only one!!personally i think its a put together!

yup!from what i can see it has thee maximum number of devices and that is worrying with the amount of ribbons on this bar and the length of service!!well its going back any way!! thanks for the info and help though!!(i know alot more about ribbon bars then when i started!!!!) :beer:

thanks for going to all that trouble!to me when i first got it and then did the maths it did seem there was just to much service on this bar!!!also there seems to have the most amount of devices on the ribbons a s well!i reckon someone did make this up but put to many ribbons on it!for me the ISM really kills it!!thanks again i do appreciate you going to all that trouble!! :beer:

thanks meryn i was looking for that thread!thats where i read it!!! :beer:

didnt i read here that the ism comes before the mm?