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picked a nice victory medal up there today and when i got his MIC it shows 3 numbers on it, just wondering are these 3 numbers 3 separate service numbers or 3 different reg number as looks like he moved about abit! the name on the rim is 3012 PTE A.N.CHARROSIN. 7-LONDON.R. looks like he was in the london reg the machine gun corps and the royal engineers!! quite interesting!dont think on his MIC theres anything other then the medal roll!also would it be normal to have 3 separate numbers when you moved??(id say it was just want to make sure!!)interesting though is that the lower number is on the medal! any help on this would be great!! :beer:

james i am sorry that you think i am a time waster but believe it or not i have checked those names but have only been able to take one name off this list(vitor darwin if its the same person i found via wiki as he had ww1 service and died in 72 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Victor_Darwin ), all i have access to is google(which is VERY hit and miss!!) and the medal year book and the national archive(which you can from what i understand only look at the records from ww1 and back) i honest dont even know how you managed to come up with these names for this bar but i am VERY grateful for you taking the time and effort to do that!any and all help is greatly appreciated and i always say to people who help me out that if theres anything i can do in return please just! i would LOVE to be able have the knowledge of researching british stuff but iv only started to actively collect it in the last 3\4 months having mostly collected german militaria and that field has limit research for the normal everyday soldier! ,so again i am extremely grateful for the help you gave me and as i said if there is anything i can do in return please just ask!

yeah i was thinking about trying that first before i send it chris!!! i spent about 20 minutes on sunday wrecking my eyes(think there only back to normal now!!) and im pretty sure theres a 5 in there to so it would be 29-59 so far!!!

but what about the missing devices? looks like theres a 2nd MM rosette and then MID and 8 army number!do any of the people have these? these devices would really narrow it down to a few people if not only one!!personally i think its a put together!

yup!from what i can see it has thee maximum number of devices and that is worrying with the amount of ribbons on this bar and the length of service!!well its going back any way!! thanks for the info and help though!!(i know alot more about ribbon bars then when i started!!!!) :beer:

thanks for going to all that trouble!to me when i first got it and then did the maths it did seem there was just to much service on this bar!!!also there seems to have the most amount of devices on the ribbons a s well!i reckon someone did make this up but put to many ribbons on it!for me the ISM really kills it!!thanks again i do appreciate you going to all that trouble!! :beer:

thanks meryn i was looking for that thread!thats where i read it!!! :beer:

didnt i read here that the ism comes before the mm?

hhmmmm yeah after going through the ribbons it does seem that with the ism it may be a put together!!!

so picked this up in another deal and while the bar does make seems is it plausible? from what i can make out the guy joined before 37 was in ww2 in the 8th army(Theres a missing 8 on the north African star)and a MID on the war medal and won a MM then he was in korea then was still in the service till after 62 and left in te 70s and at some point got imperial service medal! so what do you thing? a put together or a very very nice huge bar?also what are the last 3 ribbons as i cant for the life of me figure out what they are!(order of malta for the last ribbon!!) any help would be great!! :beer:

yeah id be up that!il see if maybe just maybe if i cant get get any anything if not il send it you!!!!(be intresting to see if anything can be found!!!) thanks!! :beer:

picked this up on a another forum! the job on its been done very well and the brooch is pretty nice as well!sadly its been partially erased! the numbers i can make out is 29---9 (i think)then PTE then at the very end R what would the chances be of getting the serial number by adding in the various missing digits and taking it from there?i probably wont mess with it as well this looks like some-one was proud of this!!thanks for any help!! :beer:

aahhh i know them!! my great uncle had one of them as we was also wounded in the ww1!!! heres a closer look at the note!!

if get a better pic of it! whats a SWB???(cant for the life of me think what that is!!!!!)

and the other half!! i like the bit where he got into a fight with a copper!! ;)

so got his service record and to be honest most of it says "3 days in the cells" so looks like he liked a good fight or 3!!! am i right in saving he was a naval air station in 1913(pembroke 2) thanks for any info!!

and his mm card!!

so i went to the national archives and re-downloaded his MIC and i also got some more info!whats interesting on the bottom left hand corner looks like he was caught with something but cant make out what it was??? can any one see what it was??

arent they both from the 6 day war?

thats pretty fantastic info!!!im going to look into try and getting info on why the MM was awarded!!! :beer:

yup i have the same info hes the one from Garstang,i have his census from 1911 and hes a horse handler that was living in Garstang in 1911!is that the same person?if so thats simply AMAZING that you got a pic of him!!!if theres anything i can do just let me know!!!this forum just gets better each day!!! :cheers:

sadly PK both those dealers are gone!!!!! and yup not much round just 2 fairs and one guy selling coins and few medals in Georges arcade is about it!!

yeah i was thinking the same thing myself! this is a very high gallantry award that be researched!ALOT of other such gallantry awards cant be research so the history is lost from them!!!this is why iv also started to like British stuff as the research being them can be fascinating!! the lads of in war found out his final rank was as a corporal!the ONLY pity is that i cant find out how he was awarded it sadly!!(being awarded to late he was only put dwn in the gazette that he was awarded it!)

aaahh thats still young in my book!!!(and me turning 30 next year has NOTHING to do with that!!!!! )

there no device holding the ribbon just a loop on the back!! thanks for the id guys! and the order is better in hand then the pics show!!! :beer: