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I don't believe these have been convincingly attempted yet...... I personally don't like any marked 'A.G. & Co. M?nchen' as a very large number of these suddenly appeared on market in the 1970's. There are only two types of badge marked by this maker, the Master version is suspect because it has a bronze finish and it should be gold. That then causes me to wonder about the other one, so I just keep away from them. Cheers Don

Indeed it is Robert, same maker on the pin plate, & it also has the lines on the badge used as a guide for placing the pin. I don't seem to have a scan of it for some reason, if I get time over the weekend I'll dig the badge out & scan it. Cheers Don

Best of luck bro'. I would indeed hope that in such a case Herr Weizte would set the matter straight BTW, Nice badge Benten Cheers Don

Sweet Are you sure it's black enamel & not just the colour of the base metal where the silver has worn off? Here's my silver KK-G '43 Cheers Don

Very true on both points Cheers Don

Hi Dan, I was looking on the reverse, to the right of the pin, looks like casting pitting too me. Also I can't explain the the "blob" on the front. Could be wrong thou', only an opinion. Cheers Don

Another dodgy one I'd say I'm afraid. Cheers Don

There was a picture posted on the thread you started on WAF yesterday. Cheers Don

Thank you Bill for yet another absorbing thread, I've just spent my whole lunch hour reading it As with the thread on fakes ( http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=9368 ) I shall pin this to the top for easy reference. You have definitely whetted my appetite for obtaining a couple of these birdies. Cheers Don

I've now corrected the link I supplied in post 19 earlier

Snyders treasures eh? Say no more..........

I would be very doubtful that this is an original, unless it is a private modification. May we see an image of the reverse please? And a close up of the 1923 area? The significance of the date 1923 is that was the year of Hitler's attempted Putsch in Munich. Cheers Don

Ahh, that explains why in a few places I started to get a little confused..... I thought it was my age Any further references would be well received I'm sure. Thanks again Don

An absolutely fascinating thread Bill, thanks for taking the time to do this. In case it gets lost here is the link to the original thread that you mention above http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=9405 I will also pin this to the top as I feel it's to important to be lost amongst the other threads. Cheers Don

Indeed, it could well be in breach of the Trades Description Act here in the UK & it's equivalent under European law. Unless they have a clause anywhere (which I haven't seen), that states that the item supplied may not be the item pictured, they could end up in hot water. Stephen may know more (Gold Party Pin Guy). They did a similar thing to me a while back with a Kleing?rtner badge. The one pictured was maker marked Frank & Reif, but the badge supplied was a Poellath. They replied that they didn't have a F&R in stock, so I returned it. But yes, I lost postage on it. Incidentally, the one still pictured on the site is the F&R, they never replaced the image (although they did put the price up!) Good luck Robert (give 'em hell ) Cheers Don

Indeed that was quick. Unfortunately, this can be a common problem with dealers. They sometimes use stock images to list their items, or if they have several of the same, do not send out the pictured one. You have 3 options as far as I can see. 1 Contact them & state that it was not the pictured one, ask if they have the one used in the picture & if so exchange it. If they don't have the original then you will need to decide whether to keep it or not. 2 You have a right to return it for any reason for about a week (check the site for the exact time), so if you aren't happy return it & wait for another to turn up somewhere (this will happen as these aren't particularly rare, the box is, the coin isn't) 3 If you are happy with it keep it. It's a real pain when this happens, but I'm afraid that is one of the pitfalls at least with these larger dealers you do have a return policy. Cheers Don

Interesting piece Robert. I've only ever seen these in H?sken, which no doubt you have as well, I like it. There are some very nice items in this thread being dusted off, keep 'em coming lads! Cheers Don

Lovely pieces gents. Of those pieces I prefer the white horse, just lovely....... Cheers Don

I think this just goes to show how much will still have to learn about events of only 70 or so years ago, & how difficult it can be. I cannot imagine what it's like studying a period from hundreds of years ago Cheers Don

Thank you Bill for the extra info & yes, I too would love to know more if you have the inclination & time. Cheers Don

Indeed they are Robert. Here is the link to the thread Rosenberg mentioned. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=226 Cheers Don

Very interesting, thanks. What are T?rplaketten? Google translates it as "door plaques" but they look more like post cards to me. Cheers Don

Very nice Florian, I take my hat off to you You do manage to find some lovely pieces. Thanks for showing it. Cheers Don

That's the chap, I knew I'd seen one somewhere!! Thanks Ralf , any idea how much it is? There you go Robert grab the coin & you've got a set Cheers Don

Thanks Robert. I'm not honestly that sure, I suppose that it could be. There is an earlier version of this pin, almost the same but with the initials NDO (Nationalverband instead of Reichs) & slightly different wording around the edge. Take a peek at H?sken 9610a & 9611a, the DOB are on the same page. Cheers Don