Chris Boonzaier

Good question, it is listed in that order in his papers.... He must have been really old when he made the list, he was a service medal 1st and 2nd class listed, but the treuedienst cross on the bar....

Looks like Lt Mehmet ?

Picked this up on Ebay, Must be from Hessen? At first I thought Kokade was bavarian, but shoulder boards are 221

I am guessing this is him.... Name:Georg JockersGender:MaleMarital Status:WidowedAge:79Birth Date:10 Mai 1877 (10 May 1877)Death Date:30 Jun 1956Burial Date:3 Jul 1956Burial Place:Baden, GermanySpouse:Marie Baas FHL Film Number:1189651

So to recap... the small Gold Baden Verdienst Medal with Karl Friedrich Ribbon, 395 awards Württemberg Verdienstcross with swords, 2284 awards... For me quite a bit better than a knights cross ;-)

Hi Andreas, Duh! I missed that one, thanks, I shoulda thought of that. Combine the fact that Großherzog Friedrich was chief, and Jockers was from baden, and you have it in a nutshell. I am working on getting the rest of the group, if it is still there...

Dave dug the date of the Württemberg award out for me.... Georg Jockers, württ. Verdienstkreuz on 20.12.1916 as a Feldwebel., 1.MGK/IR 126. (a Württemnerg Unit) I am tending to think he started the war in a baden unit.... Leib Grenadier Regt 109.... Kork is a small town, The Verlustliste have 2 Georg Jockers from there listed, but it is a great leap of the imagination..... a Private in Leib Gren 109 wounded in late 1915, and a Vizefeldwebel injured in IR 126 in Late 1916.... However, it is possible that he was in the IR126 all the time, but he WAS a Badener by birth, his hometown listed as Kork.

Ahh... sorry,I meant to type "favourite Non Bavarian Bar" !

The guy made a big effort to keep his stuff together for future generations..... He seems to have worked as a Railway inspector between the wars...

Deyr fé,deyja frændr,deyr sjálfr et sama;ek veit einn,at aldri deyr:dómr um dauðan hvern. Possesions diekinsmen dieyou yourself die;I know one thingwhich never dies:the judgment of a dead man's life. DU STIRBST – BESITZ STIRBTDIE SIPPEN STERBEN.EINZIG LEBT – WIR WISSEN ES –DER TOTEN TATENRUHM. Translations all vary slightly.......

I think it impotant to remember that it was possible /Probable that some Inf Geschütz Batteries were probably on permanent detachment to a SB, although not an intergral part of that battalion. i.e. the only thing seperating them was being on the payroll of that battalion. The Werner Lacoste book shows how SB Unit commanders were very carful not to get "extra weight" sapping their finances, so a batterie on permanent detachment, but not part of the unit, saved costs for the SB commander. Anyway, as can be seen the 7th and 14th had batteries detached to them for onger periods of time.

Hi, Nah, I could not resiste the Italian one because of the Libyan connection, this one was in a partial group I had picked up of Bavarian Leib Regt stuff. The odd bit of artillery was just coincidence, cant let the gunners think noone wants them!!! :-) Sometimes you just find things and go... "Why not!?"

Looks really nice!!! Did not think it would turn out that nice!!! Can you post the cleaning process in detail?

This implies a rather fixed relationship.... I also have a Sturmbataillon Nr 14 document to their attached Inf Geschutz Batterie 9. which seems to have spent a long time with them.

Auction above going crazy!!!! EUR147 without the medals for a knife and fork carving set box with new inlay!!!!

In 1920 the Bavarian Military school closed it doors for the final time. Many future officers had passed through its doors.....

Aaaahh... you are right... my error...

Am I right in reading this as "Kort" ? Thanks Chris

You lucky lucky man you!!!

Hi, yes indded! Is there a roll for known recipients?

Its funny how many Flak Units stamped bayonets, Other than my colonial ones and the Pionier one, I think I have 2-3 more, and all have Flak stamps....

Aye, but the REAL error is at the local constabulary? But taking them away is a bit like a girl deciding she does not want to the morning AFTER the dirty dead... whats done is done, can't punish the bloke for it...

Tony! A Fantastic doc that details the process in WW2 to a degree I have not seen before!!

And another.... http://www.ebay.de/itm/Seltenes-3er-Kombi-Etui-fur-EK2-EK1-m-Spange-Frontkampferkreuz-TOP1A/281767157735?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140117125630%26meid%3Dbf3350b38d96443887a70601d9d7127b%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D121724720725

Its not their fault, so maybe leave them with the medal and introduce a retroactive ribbon device "P" for probation, or "L" for learner ? Why does the mint issue medals directly??