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A thoroughly enjoyable thread. Sorry I have only my appreciation to share. --dj--Joe

Don, the RDF pin must be a rare item. I have scoured the internet and only seen RDF images on paper items. Such as books and dues stamps. Regards, --dj--Joe

Don, You are the only major collector of these badges that I am aware of. I would imagine there are others. Do they share knowledge with you? Prototypes are certainly interesting. It's amazing they survived intact. Wish I had more items to share. I find the whole subject matter of interest. Paperwork, stamps, badges of course :), pictures, etc. Thank you Don for your dedication and sharing of your knowledge. --dj--Joe

Lance, thank you. Different metals. Multi part badge, makes sense. Don, Multi part badge. Now I see it. The prototype is interesting and thought provoking. Only one example known I take it? Thanks for the in-depth on the Völkermarkt badges. --dj--Joe

Looking about I saw that the Kufstein wreaths were painted green. Some examples I assume it's either worn away or absorbed. I did note a badge that made me wonder -- 1943 Kreis Volkermarkt. the badge I saw had KK-Gewehr at the top, was it a small caliber event only or are there other badges for large caliber and pistol? --dj--Joe

Lance, nice badge, Kufstein 1943. The alloy must be better than the later war (heavy on the zinc alloys) as it is claimed that zinc melts at the temps. needed to apply (fire) enamel. Not sure of all the different blends of alloys used during the period. Not a magnetic badge? Don, another interesting photo. Resolution on these period photos seems to be just out of grasp. Thanks for sharing. Were the oak-leaf wreaths not painted green on the Kufstein's ? --dj--Joe

That is quite a nice picture. Thanks for the close up Don. I imagine period in wear images pertaining to Tirol badges are few and far between. --dj--Joe

Lance, Nice selection of badges. Thanks for showing them. Wish I could focus, however I collect haphazardly. I only have one A.G. & Co. example but I can find no reason to discount the A.G. & Co. badges. I am aware of one other as yet unknown maker mark. B.B. & Co. (Turkish War Medal). To bad TerryG's in wear picture back on page 3 is not clear and focused in on the badge. --dj--Joe

How common was it to see a 1939 badge minus the swastika? I do recall that Don had or has a 1942 oak leaf shaped tinnie type badge with a target. No swastika in sight. Always liked that piece. --dj--Joe

Thank you Don for the information and pictures of badges. Please excuse all the questions. Inquiring mind and all that. --dj--Joe

Still thinking. ---- I realize there was no shoot in 1945. I wonder at what point after 1944 the decision was made, since there are no unissued 1945 badges yet they were prepped for 1946 and 1949. 😶 --dj--Joe

I am confused (but getting used to it). If a 3 yr. Meister badge was awarded in 1943, for 41-43. I assume the 4 yr. clasp was given for 1944. Was a 5 yr. clasp envisioned for 1945 since there was a 6 yr. badge planned for 1946? I also wonder what was the original thought of jumping by threes. 3, 6, 9 Yr's. Just wondering, --dj--Joe

Thank you for showing your case and badges. I look forward to any other items you may wish to share. --dj--Joe

Your collection is growing. 😊 --dj--Joe

Have noted several Mitglieds-Ausweis online, however the images were to small to see the changes to the dues stamps. Also wonder what emblem was used prior to 1933. --dj--Joe

RDK founded 1922. So --- during the third Reich period from 1933 to 1940 it was the RDK. From 1940 to 1945 it was the RDF. All those badge variants for such a short time period. If true that you had to have at least four children (three for widows?) I wonder how many would have qualified? Mothers and Fathers both qualified for the badge? Where are all the RDF badges? I have not seen an in wear image that I recall. I read that some time after 1945 it became the BKD merging in 1970 with the DFV. Please correct this if incorrect. ?--dj--Joe

Thanks Don. I saw one other example referred to as Deutscher Schulverein as already noted by GeorgeCL. Same reverse set up. --dj--Joe

Don, Have you seen or read of any additional information on the variants? Wreathed, the gold that you mentioned, color hierarchy (if any) of the two piece badges? --dj--Joe

Any further insight into originality of marked vs unmarked Frauenhilfdienst badges? --dj--Joe

It would indeed be nice to see other examples. I have only one example, wide border (Leader) Orts (Blue) M1/13. Same as one above. Would be something to see one with the oak leaf border. Type two if I remember correctly. They are impressive for the size and simplicity of design. though I have to concentrate to keep the color and border hierarchy straight. I searched online for examples but they were few. --dj--Joe

I was dusting off the back pages again. Some very nice badges shown here. Thanks all. --dj--Joe

Thought this an interesting badge and brought the topic back current to see if any additional information had surfaced. --dj--Joe

Don, you have the bronze, silver and gold. Are the reverses all the same? Robert's example looked like period manufacture. --dj--Joe

Nice finds for your collection. Well photographed and informative posts. --dj--Joe

could it be possible that Roberts Meisterzeichen badge From page 5 could be categorized as a Festabzeichen ? --dj--Joe