hello gents, sorry for the delay getting back to this. i have tried my best to take as good a pictures as i can, but they still dont come close to the quality of the other members. so i tried different lightings etc. and even under a magnafing glass. the eagle it self has some kind of coating on it. i can see nice detail under it, but not so much in the pic's. the lightning bolts look much better when looking at it in hand. i'm dissapointed in it being a fake, because in hand it has a nice quality to it. the wreath edges are not overly rounded, and even a little sharp. i would not expect this on a cast. but the fakers are doing a good job on some pieces. this badge belonged to a guy i know for a long time before i got it, so i know its not a recent fake. but any thing i can do to educate my self and others with this badge, as far as what to look for, i'm all for it. so if other pictures will help, i'll take them. i am hesitent to post the observers badge that came with it lol.