E Williams

You betcha!!!!!!!!!! I'll frame it, hang it and post it.

Krieghoff made Lugers for the German Luftwaffe (personal contract from Goring) from 1934-45. The ones made in 1937 go for thousand and thousand of bucks because those went to the paratroopers. There were/are considered the most desirable of the WWII manufacturers because of the quality and that same quality cost eventually started taking too much of the military budget and the P-38 eventually became the issued sidearm made in Germany. Simson & Co made high quality Lugers from 1922-1932 also but they were Jewish and after the Nazis confiscated the armory and given to Mauser and became the armory that put out the most. Most, but not all, of the police issued sidearms were WWI Lugers, Walthers and occupied armories that continued to manufacturing under german supervision. I prefer WWI Lugers that are unit marked. Nazis didn't do that with Lugers, smaller arms, yes. Nazi Lugers, IMO, are boring. What sells Nazi era Lugers is the proofmarks..........the Reichs Adlers and swastikas and with that, DWM and Erfurts run neck in neck with Mausers but some WWI DWMs and Erfurts can also run into the high thousands depending upon the unit markings. Four to five thousand for a nice Dragoon or Uhlan unit marked Luger.

I have an empty wall it would fit on, even framed......................hint hint!!!!

Whenever you're ready, let me know. I'll give ya all the help I can finding that one you'll be looking for, in the condition, at the price you can pay. Ed

1913 Erfurt, 1913 was Erfurt's second year with the first ones coming off the line in 1911. Erfurt was the second Armory to receive an Army contract in 1910, DWM being the first in 1908, hence Model P-08. From 1910-1918, the whole Erfurt production neared 23,000 "Artillery" models and 496,000 regular models. This one, except for the magazine, although it is an Erfurt proofed magazine, all numbers match, including the grip panels. It is graded with 95% blue and 90% straw. Holster wear is normal but this one has wear on the left side of the barrel. This had to be of a broke pull strap that fell down into the holster and rubbing the barrel area. Other than that, it's a great example of an early Erfurt 9mm Luger. Notice also it does not have a shoulder stock lug. Lugs started being put on the grip late 1913, if my memory is still working. I've added a few extra photos to show how every part was Erfurt proofed. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-08868300-1380753032.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-08852800-1380753099.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-89485100-1380753142.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-87233600-1380753200.jpg These next two photos is what makes this Luger a 'crème de crème' of my collection. What am I thinking??? To find a young, sweet, beautiful, petite psychic and tell her to close her eyes. Take Cpl Kunst's militarpass and put it in her left hand and then put this luger in her right hand and then whisper softly in her ear..............tell me their History!!!! http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-09172900-1380753578.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-15051200-1380753625.jpg 2nd Ersatz Machine Gun Company 9th Army Corps weapon no# 85

I've always liked "Bullshit and Brilliance Comes With Age and Experience" I'm offski to pick up a Luger..................

I've noticed that, none of these guys are wearing a MGSS sleeve badge.

Anyone know anything of what was wrote? I see Liebe, Fulda,a recent letter he received was dated 12.5.

Always thought they looked like a KP hat or a nightcap. Will the real Wilhelm please step FWD, I have a Liebe Johann for you!!!!!

Received this photo today. From the only visible shoulder board Regt ID, this MG crew belonged to the 242 Res JR, 53rd Res Div (Saxony) They took part in Flanders-Ypres, LaBassee, Somme, Loos, Champagne, Galicia, spent a year on the Eastern Front, later participated in Picardy, Verdun and Soissons. Purely Saxon. These troops almost all have received the IC2. Any translation would be appreciated. I see a few words I understand but that's all. Which one is Wilhelm????? Thanks Ed http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-76013500-1380656629.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2013/post-16240-0-80426900-1380656730.jpg

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats.................

Eric, I will be picking it up Wednesday and I'll post photos Wednesday evening. If you were following when I first joined the forum, I came with a German translation request for a Militarpass I acquired, http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/59973-gefreiter-ferdinand-heinrich-friedrich-kunst/ That soldier, Cpl Kunst, was in the same Machine Gun unit as the Erfurt I will pick up Wednesday: "2 E.M.G.IX.35".

If any member here has a photo or comes across a photo of any Imperial soldier carrying a luger with a lanyard attached, I'd appreciate a PM or post it here. It must be Imperial German. There has never been any documentation that has surfaced and if they did, it was something the soldier himself made for security. There are remakes of so called "cavalry' lanyards and even so called 'cavalry' holsters but no documentation has ever surfaced. What is taken as a P-08 Luger lanyard are Portuguese issued for their Lugers. Thanks.................... Ed

I have fun using my credit cards now, for so many years my (ex)-wives always did....not no more!!!!! and with the points, it's me who now gets free dinners at Red Lobster !!!!!

I don't have "dry spells".......but my credit cards do!!!!!

Since many items of Imperial German issue are found still today with regimental markings and the different way those markings were applied and by whom, a good book to find is: A hard book to find since it's out of print but well worth the price.

1917 Erfurt, all matching including magazine. Erfurt, IMO, were the best of the both, DWM/Erfurt. Both were manufactured with precision but Erfurts were a step above by having every single part proofmarked including each grip screw. This one is not military unit marked but was chosen after the war to be reconditioned to be issued for Weimar police use which always overlapped into the Nazi era. This is why this is being shown with it's police issued and marked aluminum based magazine. Notice the number '2.' meaning this was the pistols spare magazine. You will also sometimes see the ser no# with the '+' sign meaning spare magazine and in this case was a re-issue and ser no#'d marked under the Nazi era and was originally issued to Schupo Berlin weapon no# 7716 This is the last of my Police Luger collection. Later this week it will be traded off for another Erfurt (1913) that is MG unit marked. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-60893500-1380499920.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-99678300-1380499957.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-98193200-1380499995.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-38390400-1380500026.jpg http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-69781900-1380500150.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-10548100-1380500190.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-62787200-1380500229.jpg

My weight was 184 when I retired in 85, it's 185 today and the Blues still fit... I just wished some things still worked..Viagra and Depends help though.

Babes, Breasts and Beers.........Oktober Fest. Those were the days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There were two part of the 13 Div, Inf Btn Cassel and Mayence but I can't find Ktown in my book, it might be there but without a Regt or Div number, it's a bit difficult.

Chris, do you know what Regt they were part of in 1914?

Real nice group!!!!!

No problem...Baby Boomer here with the Mother of all Short Term Memory Loss.

Senior moment..............I still sometimes forget that my brain is thinking color while my eyes are seeing B&W. I think that pretty much has arrived at the conclusion. Dragoon Regt 20. Thanks to all.................

Thankyou...............