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Hi all I got some close ups of my non combat mini. Would welcome opinions please Rob

Hi Stogieman I looked at your link and I didnt purchase from this seller. I believe that both my medals are kosher with the exception to the ribbon on the EK which glowed under uv. TOM Y kindly donated an original ribbon to me. So I think I got a good set?? I will post pics at the weekend under natural light ( I work during the week and I leave when its dark and come home when its dark!) and see what others think. Rob

Well it seems that my idea of a lifelong quest to find a non combat ribbon took just 1 day!! Big shout out to Tom Y who saw my thread and he has kindly donated one and it is in the post as we speak! Cheers Tom I hope one day I can return the favour.

hehe cheers Kev Yep you certainly disproved my analogy, big hand to you . i do like the mini that was the reason i got these as they were sold as a pair. Was thinking of getting hold of a combatants ribbon (period) and swapping them over and wait for the whole deal on the non combat to come along. good plan? I know some would say that the ek and band are not a true historical representation. But if it works for me? etc The positive thing to come out of this is that I got a uv torch!! and all my other items dont glow! But get this, that flandern x band I got doesnt glow or melt but it is brand spankin new, has a feel of like when you get new sneakers it is firm, clean, serated cut at the top, ?? Rob pssst if ya see any nichtkampferband originales knocking about ahem

Hi David You were right. It is a replacement ribbon. I tested it under uv light and it did indeed glow!! I also burned a little of the frayed top and this did melt. I did test the mini and am glad to say that this did not glow!! Now do I have the impossible task of trying to find an original ribbon? I reckon that will be a lifelong task!! Now my thoughts have turned to the ek itself. It does look good but hey I got it wrong on the ribbon! lol what do you think? Cheers Rob

David, Do you know of other purveyors of fakes to stay clear of? Much appreciated Rob

Good one David Glad I spotted that, was liking the spanish russia medal! Dont think I will bother. Valuable info for all other new collectors who read this thread. Thanks Rob

.....or indeed any other medals listed on this site?

Hello I noticed this ek on this site. http://www.ww2medalsbadgesandinsignia.com/...Medals-Singles- (scroll down to the bottom. Ek1'39 and bar on ribbon) It looks like Franks ek and I am thinking this too is a fake. I have a "20" EK1 and the stamp is on the inside of the pin and it looks nothing like the stamp "20" on this EK. It would be interesting to know if other members think/know that it is a fake? Regards Rob

Hi Chris Where abouts was the event? It does look like Southampton and not the dockyard? I played many ships in and get this we used to see all the girlfriends there and we saw them in "Joannas" the week before and lets just say they were enjoying themselves! I knew a bandy who was on Canberra in 82. His name is Fred Miller, you know him? He was a sergeant when I was in the mob and a very funny bloke. Once we both played in a small orchestra on HMS Victory for the 2nd Sea Lord and the tune we were playing was "Sobre las Olas" by J. Strauss, a well known fairground tune, well Fred was simulating shooting ducks with his flute and I was struggling to keep it together on my solo and the Bandmaster gave me a look of "dont u dare!". I did have a great time in the mob and got to know many a decent bloke and lots were Bootnecks. Mostly provost at Deal and PTI's, PWI's, oh and a mention to the provost Sergeant who once gave me a bollocking of the century but thats another story!! I saw a few places and I wouldnt be doing what I am now if I hadnt of joined the RM Band I am sure of it. I have so many great experiences It would take too long to put on this post! Thanks for the pics Chris Rob

Thanks David, Greg. I will check the band under UV and let you know. I bought this from Berlin from Dealer who assured me its 100% original? But you may be right and its a replace band. Meanwhile here is a better scan without flash. Rob

Hello all My new delivery and thought I would post for your perusal. I am very happy with these items. Also could anyone tell me who the maker is, it is stamped 'G'. Thanks Rob

Thanks Guys You confirmed what I thought, hate it when I get a dud!! Anyway I will send it back Rob

Thanks chaps It really wasnt a moment of outstanding bravery but its a nice medal. Mike, I am happy to hear you like military music, alas I do not! When you have played HM Jollies umpteenth millilon times (actually that was an ok one to play) but you know what I mean , it got tedious. I left and freelanced as a muso gigging around Europe then went back to school and got a music degree. I now teach and gig(UK), clarinet/sax/flute. Regards Rob

I also think that the ribbon isnt wide enough as it is 25mm and I believe it should be 35mm?

Hello fellas I got this item this morning. I think it is a fake. It looks good, obverse and reverse, the ribbon looks very old too, but then when you look at the edge!! To quote Military History Journal-vol 1 no3 T.E. Sole South African Military History Society..... ...There are in existence privately minted copies of the medal in various metals which, apart from slight differences in design, do not bear the name Schultz on the obverse. On genuine medals his name appears in minute letters on the truncation of the bust of Germania. http://rapidttp.com/milhist/vol013ts.html Could I indeed have one of these? If so is that an out&out fake? Opinions from members more clued up than myself would be gratefully recieved. Thanks Rob

Thanks Glenn or is that Frank? Rob

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Hello I am an ex RM musician so thought I would post this for you to check out as it is unusual and I guess you dont see many on here?. I am the recipient of this award Cassell Prize silver medal . I won this in 1993 for winning a soloist competition held at the Royal Marines school of music, Deal, Kent. This competition was open to all of training company and was run over a few months culminating in a final of 8 musicians. I played clarinet and played "Three Etudes on Themes of Gershwin". I was presented with this medal at Stationers Hall in London by Worshipful Company of Musicians. collector of all Deutsches Reich medals and awards

Thanks Greg my cross matches your analysis. Rob

Hi fellas I just received this EK1 1914 1st class this morning. I compare this with my EK1 39 and I notice that the 1914 is thinner and not as bulky as the 39 cross. Is this usually the case? I purchased this as an original and I believe it to be so but I am a novice collector so opinions would be warmly recieved. Cheers Rob

Cheers fellas Was referring to the "20" (CF Zimmerman). Micha, so there are marked "20" ek2's out there? Controversal, can you elaborate on this Micha? I understand what your saying about the core dont match the 1st class but why is this controversal except the cores dont match. Is there a reason for this and is that controversal? Am always learning from people like yourselves so for that I am very grateful and makes my hobby very interesting. Rob

Hi all Can anyone tell me if Zimmerman made 2nd class ek's? If not then I will stop seeking, if so, are they common or rare as I have never seen one. Thanks Rob

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