Gentlemen, I have tried to refrain from adding my 2 cents here, but I just can't. All people in this discussion have valid points. If I have added to the problem I again apologize. I would like to retun to the purpose of this forum which is to share information and knowledge. Too often, and I am as guilty as anyone, we let our passion get the best of us. I need to remember that this is a hobby. While I enjoy collecting and researching I also value the friends that I have made in the hobby. I need to not lose track of this and remember that this hobby is fun! Last year when I went to Germany I purchased a few medal bars and visited a few people. When I tell people about my trip to Germany I forget to talk about the medals because it was more important to talk about running around Berlin and Potsdam with Daniel and meeting the brother of a U-Boot officer whos dagger I have. How could I replace the enjoyment of meeting a re-enactor dressed like Frederick the Great and having my picture taken with him. This to me is the enjoyment of the hobby. This hobby should be fun. When it becomes a pain in the butt then I am done.