Mike Huxley

Hell ... your right Rick ... It is the "Tribe" of Liebers that I have. I'm sure that the 1st in the front row sitting in my last post is "Edward" or is it my imagination? No leave in 2 years ... now that is being dedicated to his duty. Yep Rick, I found Oberstleutnant Oskar Knopf in the vol's you mentioned ... guess I should use them more !!!! The plot deepens in the family Lieber investigations Cheers, Mike

I agree Christophe, plus his belt has the Prussian buckle and not the Bavarian one. But still a very nice framed photo. Mike

To me it would be "Dive Dive Dive" for cover. The group just doesn't make sense to me. The guy served 1870 and was still going about 1920 to have received that badge and no real in between awards. 1870 EKII on bar should surely have the second award bar. For the price it's being offered for, total madness IMO. Mike

Last one ... possible taken at the school that was mentioned.

An interesting overlay for a map, I'm not sure what it refers to though, or where it is :banger:

Backs. Rick, I just can't translate most of this .... please help.

A group of small pics, followed by the information on the back.

A few pics from the front. I think Edward is centre front ... but I just love "Von Shorthausen" clutching his sausage, second from right back row.

Well I'm gobsmacked at what this small group has brought up It just goes to show what background can be found from such a few documents and photo's ... PLUS a lot of knowledge from those that use the "Dark Art". Rick, yet again you have come up trumps with the info ... you cease to amaze me Saschaw, I wonder if the documentds you were offered are to the same Hyazinth as the one shown in the picture. Not a common name, so it could be. I'll try and contact Mr. Bretzendorfer to see if he still has them. Thanks for that information. Glenn, I had a feeling that Clemens went on to greater things ... a long service history there. Thanks for this. I'll add a few other pieces from the group, another small note dated 30 Jan 1918 to Oblt Lieber. Also a selection of photo's from the front, not sure which Lieber these belonged to, but info is written on the back of them. There are also 5 Maps of France that have "Lt Lieber, IR 55" written in pencil on the front. Possibly maps given out prior to the start of the War.

That's all for tonight. I'll add some further photo's that have obviously been taken from an album tomorrow. These are from 1915 and are taken from the front line. Please, if you can add anything to the background of these brothers it would be great. Regards, Mike

Reverse of above.

Now the puzzle ... is this the younger brother??

Possible a latter CDV of Clemens ... notice the shoulder bars.

Revers of above.

Three CDV's of Clemens.

Moving on to senior brother "Clemens Lieber", he is the one standing back left in the group photo. A group of CDV's and a photo of him from earlier service to later life. Clemens was a Doctor.

Reverse of this CDV

An early CDV of Edward wearing his "St Michael"

A photo of our intrepid Hpt, in the front, with I believe his brothers. Taken in earlier years befor the war and showing Edward wearing the "St Michael" medal.

and the "Death Card" for Edward Lieber. Notice the awards !!!

EKII award document.

A closer view of the Lippe award doc.

I recently obtained this nice grouping of documents and photo's from a good Forum friend in Germany. It consists of two award documents to a "Lt Edward Lieber" ... also a "Death Card" to a "Hpt Edward Lieber" formally of Reg 55, but serving when wounded with Res Inf Reg 81. The interesting part of the grouping is that it also includes pictures of his brothers and Edward wearing his St Michael silver Medal. The group is far from complete and is well mixed up. Never the less, a nice one, when looking into the service of those that served with this regiment. I could do with some help in trying to put together some background of the brothers ... so please contribute any help that you can. I'll start off with a scan of the two documents.

An unusual mini lapel group with the "25 Dienstjahren Staatseisenbahn abzeichen" and the Landwehr-Dienstauszeichnung II. Klasse. A nice little mini I think.

That's what I meant to say it was saschaw ..... senior moment as I was typing and at the same time thinking of another group that I was about to write up about. Thanks for the wink .... I've now corrected my error. Mike