Deruelle

Hi, Congrats, what a nice bar you have and with photo. Have you got more information about your officer ?

Hi,

Welcome on board.

It seems to be logic that the colour of the buckle change with regulation. You can use a leather binde with painted buckle, and it will be easier to wear on your uniform.

Christophe

Hi

In Nimmergut's book, it is said that 1116 crosses with white band has been awarded.

Christophe

Hi

On 10/02/2022 at 16:49, v.Perlet said:

Hello Deutschritter,

 

i do not want to derail this thread - but since you forwarded the question, maybe you can

help me on this one.

If someone is already possessing a hereditary title, e.g. Freiherr then what is the point of awarding

him a Ritter? - I had noticed this on others as well - e.g. a Freiherr von Reitzenstein being awarded

a Ritter. - is it about the "price-money" that comes with it?

 

Otherwise isn't that as if you would award an English Lord a Sir.?

Regards

Andreas

Hi, Like I wrote in french (sorry it is from my database), he received the "Kreuz der Ehrenritter"

Christophe

Hi

Here is a nice photo from 1934 showing Generals from Tannenberg battle

Christophe

Hi

He received the following order

Feuilles de chêne à la croix de chevalier de l‘ordre Pour le Mérite, le 17 juin 1918,

Croix de chevalier de l‘ordre Pour le Mérite, le 31 octobre 1917,

Croix de fer de 2e classe, en septembre 1914,

Croix de fer de 1re c lasse, en 1915,

Croix de chevalier avec épées de l‘ordre royal de la maison de Hohenzollern, le 24 mars 1917,

Croix de chevalier de l‘ordre du mérite militaire Charles Frédéric de Bade, le 13 juin 1915,

Croix de chevalier de 1re classe avec épées de l‘ordre du Lion de Zähringen, le 1er octobre 1914,

Croix de 4e classe avec couronne et épées de l‘ordre du mérite de Bavière, le 18 septembre 1914,

Croix de 4e classe de l‘ordre de l‘Aigle Rouge, le

Croix de 4e classe de l‘ordre de la Couronne, le

Croix de chevalier d‘honneur de l‘ordre de Saint Jean, le

Croix d‘honneur de l‘ordre princier de la maison de Hohenzollern, le

Generalleutnant Ernst Freiherr von Forstner

Hi

The cross is the "Cross for heroic deed" from Lippe Detmold

Christophe

Hi,

I have in my Saxon database and I have found nothing more than Blackcowboy.

This is probably a retired officer who served in the back of the front. For that we should read the Saxon Rangliste

Christophe

17 hours ago, Mattyboy said:

A very stern-looking man. The 3rd & 4th medals appear to be identical, to my untrained eye. Does anyone know what awards these are on his ribbon bar? 

Hi Matt, it seems to be the Albert Orden 2nd and 1st class. Next is the Verdienst Orden

Christophe

Hi

Here is all awards of Dossenbach

Croix de chevalier de l’ordre Pour le Mérite, le 11 novembre 1916,

Croix de fer de 2^e classe, le 20 septembre 1914,

Croix de fer de 1^re classe, le 23 novembre 1914,

Croix de chevalier avec épées de l’ordre royal de la maison de Hohenzollern, le 21 octobre 1916,

Croix de chevalier de l‘ordre du mérite militaire Charles Frédéric de Bade, le 12 décembre 1916,

Croix de chevalier de 2^e classe avec épées de l‘ordre du lion de Zähringen, le 1^er juin 1915,

Croix du mérite militaire de 2^e classe du Mecklembourg Schwerin, le 15 septembre 1914,

Croix du mérite militaire de 1^re classe du Mecklembourg Schwerin, le 29 septembre 1916,

Brevet de pilote prussien, le 4 juin 1916,

Coupe d’honneur pour victoire en combat aérien, le

I the past I have one ribbon bar which may belonged to Dossenbach

Christophe

Thanks for your help. The text in on the back of one Saxon Jäger Bataillon officer card. For me it's a Leutnant. I can't find him on my saxon list

Christophe

Hello,

Can someone help me to id the two officer's name please ? It is for a friend. Thanks a lot

Christophe

RIP my friend. We will pray for you

Christophe

Hi,

If you want an interesting information about this order, Neal O'Connor has done it in English in his volume 3 of Aviation awards of Imperial Germany in WW1, if you read German you could buy the Dieter Weber's book, Die Orden des Königreiches Sachsen.

If you want another info, send me a pm

Christophe

Hi,

Nice project. Definitively, the third ribbon is for Albrecht Orden (probably 1st class). About the other medal, I agree with PKO4 and WF3b. It is not possible to see TR medal here like there is no Hindenburg cross.

Christophe

Hi

In the O'Connor's book, volume 5, page 65 he "presented himself to the local command in Hamburg as a volunteer on August 2, 1914"

Christophe

Hi

What a beauty. A nice knight cross 1st class with X of Ernestine House Order

Christophe

Hi

found this in the Orden Almanach from 1908 1909

Hi John

It is a Scharffenberg knight cross. Nice one. Too bad there are chips in the enamels on the back. After that, if you want it, it will depend of the price of course.

Christophe

Hi Valter,

About the aera of your research, you need the Ranglisten from Prussian Bavaria, Saxony and Wurttemberg from 1914. If you want more, just take Ranglisten after 1908 (you can see some kolonial information like orders with swords. You won't find the medal for South Afrika written in the RL)

The Ehrenranglisten is very important (to know who died during WW1). And at least you need the Reichswehr Ranglisten from 1924 or 1925. It is enough to begin good research

http://www.huesken.com/shop/de/neuheiten.html

Christophe

Hi

Very interesting and informative subject. Thank you for the enlightenment.

Christophe

Hi

The research may still be possible. You need to see in the list of the owner of the White falcon knight cross 2nd class with X and the Ernestine knight cross 2nd class with X and the Saxe Meiningen officer cross. After that, you need to write to Solomon to see if the name you found has received the Lippe Detmold cross 2nd class.

But even with the name it is not sure 100%. I don't know if the Oldenburg's list is available. the fun of research begins

Christophe

PS : the list of Saxe Weimar and Ernestine orders are available (see Michael Autengruber or Daniel Krause)

Hi,

The fourth ribbon should be the Ernestine knight cross

Christophe