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Bronz markings appear on many medals of the Royal Hungarian era. Like the Austrian-Hungarian empire the medals were marked with proof marks to give silver content. As many medals had a silver finish or gold finish there became the need to mark these medals. It was not doen every time, but more of the medals that were produced during the war appear with these BRONZ markings more frequently to denote silver pating, wash or guilding.

#1 - name #2 - date of birth #3 - place of service, date of entry #4 - mothers name #5 - branch of service #6 - unit #7 - rank #8 - a/b Method of service #9 - assignment #10 - (Important!) Political Party #11 - Schooling (final level) #12 - a/b civilian service #13 - work record #14 - previous military service (when, where, w/ who) - have yet to find one that served in the German army... #15 - short statement about your service - the one I'm looking at entered the Honved in 1942 served until April of 1945 and then (to my surprise!!) served in the Border Guard in 1945 after the war! (very unique!) this is also the section where they stamped (1960's 1970's 1980's) their complete release from military conscription or reserve duty #16 - living place in the military #17 - living place outside the military #18 - examinations of proficiency etc.. #19 - certifications #20 - special certifications I may not have these entries completely correct to the terminology - but its really close I like Piroska as well - she's a looker - and she studied my "old" profession as an Architect

Bringing in a recent find - Interior Ministry Academy - Kadar era. You can find more teeth on chickens that you can find these... :whistle:

and as the war drew to a close - there were those who were finaly laid to rest (this was my first piece of militaria - and if you could not guess by now - I am returing to my first love...)

there was fanfare, and lots of smoke...

And the Guns of August erupted

With the fateful assasination of the heir to the throne - the invasion of the Balkans commenced

Back in 2009 this is what it looked like

That was tongue in cheek - the swords on my ribbon appear to have been there since it was made. There are some very loose examples that I have seen with many of the awards post WW1 where those in the Honved or the AH Military added swords to certain awards. Though it did not make much sense to add swords to such an award it was certainly done.

Total fantasy.... This is a post war 1939 era bar to an NCO / Enlisted individual who was called back up.

Few questions - the Hussar regiments were they raised by the various states - or were the soldiers pooled from all over Germany? So could a Hessian bar go on this uniform - or just a Prussian? Hate to ask the dumb questiosn but my recent investment into reference books on Hussars and Imperial German unforms and equipment lack such details...

I agree with you Chris - in a selfish desire to have it all - I am focusing on Hussar items for this. I also just like the design and the flair that these have. The Dunkleblau uniforms of the Victorian era are nice and have a simplitic beauty, but who can beat something like that! More to come.. Chris B - (or anyone for that matter) got any idea how he could get a two place bar? And what it would be?

The only thing I have with putting a medal bar like that on this tunic is that its for a simple enlisted man. Certaily he had some skills and but I think the tunic would date from after the 1890's. I coudl see a 1898 Jubilee - but what els?

proficiency chevron (? not sure what that one is for?)

the tunic has a ferriers qualification badge

Here is my first Imperial German Uniform - as fieldgray is a bit out of my price rage at this moment, but there is some extreme beauty in these uniforms. This is a named tuinc of Gufar (?) Buck of the 5th Company of the 7th Regiment of the "Konig Wilhelm I (I Rheinisches)" Its an enlisted uniform and dats from after 1898 (? not sure on the date) What interests me is the presence of loops for a medal bar - the spacing indicated a medal bar of at least two awards. But what two awards would an enlisted man possibl earn? Any help on this one???

There were no markings what-so-ever on the interior. The loops for the boards were original to the tunic - but what you didnt see in the photros on Ebay was the glue residue where somewhere at some time had used wood glue to afix boards to it and the collar tabs as well. This thing had been around the block several times so to say. The condition and the modifcations to the tunic (which the seller also managed to keep out of the photos!)were to such a point that I doubt you would have apreciated it in your collection. Thankfuly I am able to return it and get a full refund for the item.

Yes - at this point I would certainly classify it as a bar that was assembled, the placement of the ribbons overlapping in such a manner is aslo very odd. I would also expect some discoloration to the thread on the rusty hooks as well. After looking at it again the age of the ribbons is also off and not uniform. Regardless - if you paid only 50 euro for the bar you still did pretty good. The war cross is also a cast copy with the detailed shots in my opinion.

Turned out to be a total dud... :mad:

There was little effort to repair the missing buttons as you can see by the poorly

underside of the tab - notice the thin, modern thread used to attach the tab - remnants of the original thread used to attach the original tab are still present - there was also a really poor attempt at repairing the wire used to close the collar neatly with a piece of heavy wire -

Uniforms are also subject to modification like anything else. What I originally thought to be a "pigeongray" uniform of an upper raking offcier, actually turned out to be a very very worn out penal uniform that had been modified. Of the HUPR the collar tabs and boards are in high demand. Correct shoulder boards are difficult to manufacture as the material and construction is different than the Soviet counterpart of 5 sided boards, though the collar tabs are easily manufactured - but its hard to make them "just right". I dont think there was a proper enough attempt to make this tunic into the ultra rare pigeongray uniform, (as most collectors didnt even know they existed until recently) but it was manufactured to make it more "marketable" - the collar tabs look OK at 10' from a photo on Ebay - but in the hand the color, manufacture and size are all wrong. On this photo you can see the felt is "new" and does not compare correctly to the period green felt of a proper collar tab (above), when you handle the fake tab, the edges are rounded and the material is very flimsy cardboard and not the proper stiff material. Thisrdly the signal devices look to be post 1956 as well.

I also dont like the bubbles and the lack of detail. Though the only example that I know of is published in a book and it is well worn. I will say that while I lived in Hungary there were many of these examples to be had and they were of the similar quality and consturction and were being sold as copies for about $25. The ribbon also looks like new old stock that was fabricated into a trifold. Can you show us a more detailed shot of the reverse and how the bar is put together? IE the sewing?

reverse

Not the Peoples Republic but the Tildy era - I know of only a handful of originals. This is supposed to be a signals/radiomans wings