Claudio

Hi Paul,

I just edited my thread with a picture of the backing... For me it was Army... first I thought Navy... but I'm more inclined on Army now. Too bad that the Bremen-rolls are not available... According to Nimmergut, the company A. J. Richter Hamburg manufactured 306 crosses and the company Koch & Bergfeld Bremen about 20'500. Always accordingly Nimmergut about 20'018 crosses were awarded.

C

Yeah... I observed it in many groups, that it was more the case that officers seldom updated their clasp device on the ribbon bar or on the ribbon worn at the second front button hole of the Feldbluse or Waffenrock...

C

Thanks a lot Paul! Wow... poor Rick; still being so helpful, also after life! :-(

Dear forumites,

My brother has acquired a ribbon bar...  (see below picture). Any comments or help in order to identify this bar? 

• EK 2 Kl. 1914
• HHOX
• RAO4
• Pr DA25 f. Offz
• Centenarmedaille
• Hessen, Tapferkeitsmedaille (?)
• Hamburg, Hansakreuz
• Bremen, Hansakreuz
• KuK Österreich-Ungarn, Militärverdienstkreuz 3. Kl. mit Kriegsdekoration

Thank you all in advance!

ciao,

Claudio

The reverse of the ribbon bar... I guess no clue here if it's Kriegsmarine or not... or maybe it's a confirmation that this officer must have been army...

Dear forumites,

I'd like to show you a group of ribbon bars I managed to purchase at Reichertshofen which belonged to Generalleutnant and Ritterkreuzträger Friedrich Zickwolff (see also: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Personenregister/Z/ZickwolffFriedrich-R.htm )

His uniform and medal bar were sold by Hermann Historica, years ago in 2013:

Lot Nr. 6604
Generalleutnant Friedrich Zickwolff (1889 - 1944) - a field tunic and breeches  

Old-pattern field tunic in field-grey tricot cloth with dark green collar, red piping on the button facing, golden buttons, sewn-in shoulder boards and red collar patches with golden Larisch embroidery (slightly darkened). Breast eagle missing. Affixed Iron Cross 1st Class of 1914, Wound Badge 1918 in Black and a six-piece field orders clasp. Green silk lining with Berlin tailor's tag. Breeches of stone-grey cloth with broad, red stripes, leg closure with laces and small buttons, signs of usage on the stripes at the height of the boots. 
Generalleutnant Friedrich Zickwolff, from 1909 on Leutnant in Infantry Regiment König Wilhelm I (6th Württemberg) no. 124, 1931 Major in Group Command 2 Kassel, 1936 Oberst and Kommandeur of the Infantry Regiment 119 Stuttgart, 1939 Generalmajor und Kommandeur of the 227th Infantry Division, in 1941 he was appointed Generalleutnant and on 2 June 1942, he was awarded the Knight's Cross to the Iron Cross 1939 as Kommandeur of the 113th Infantry Division. Until seriously wounded on 25 August 1943, he commanded the 343rd Infantry Division. On 17 September 1944 he died as a result of his wounds. 

(see also: http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm66.pl?f=NR_LOT&c=6604&t=temartic_R_GB&db=kat66_r.txt )

Enjoy the pictures!

ciao,

Claudio

Dear forumites,

• Besitzzeugnis Prinz Luitpold Jubiläumsmedaille 1905,
• 3 versch. Urkunden zum Eisernen Kreuz 2. Klasse 1914,
• Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit Schwertern, Doppelblatt 1915, mit Erklärung über die Rückgabepflicht,
• Patent zum Hauptmann 1915, Doppelblatt mit original Unterschrift König Ludwig III.,
• vorläufiges Besitzzeugnis zum EK 1 1916,
• Militär-Verdienstorden 4. Klasse mit der Krone und Schwertern 1917,
• Österreich Militär-Verdienstkreuz mit der Kriegsdekoration III. Klasse 1918, mit dazugehörigen Statuten (das Deckblatt fehlt),
• Urkunde und Antrag zum Verwundetenabzeichen in Schwarz 1919,
• Durchschrift zum Antrag der Hochzeitsmedaille in Eisen 1924,
• Besitz-Zeugnis zum Prinz Alfons-Erinnerungsabzeichen 1931 mit Übersendungsschreiben,
• Urkunde zum Großoffizierskreuz des Ordens der Krone von Italien 1937, mit Begleitschreiben
• 1919 zur Disposition gestellt; zur Wehrmacht reaktiviert

I am looking for more information on his career, war state of service (in which unit did he serve?). Any help is most graciously appreciated! 

Enjoy the pictures!

ciao,

Claudio

Another question; is it possible to find out which class of the Olympia-Ehrenzeichen did he wear? It must have been either the medal or the 2nd class, because in the lot there was a ribbon being pulled off of his original medal bar...

Hi Chris,

On the catalogue of Jörg Nimmergut "Abzeichen urn Auszeichnungen Deutscher Kriegervereine, 1800-1943", page 425, no. 995 is depticted your badge as :

Inf. Leib. Regiment München, Mitgliedsabzeichen, Chiffre ILR: Infanterie Leib Regiment, 47,9 x 33,7 mm, RS: glass, längs broschiert alle Auflagen am achteckigen Rahmen befestigt, Hersteller: CARL POELLATH / SCHROBENHAUSEN, BM vs/em. Eur 65.- (today's mark value as per the catalogue)

The pin you have is also from the ILR (no. 996/page 426), although it doesn't have the "Jubiläumsschildchen 25 mitgeprägt", Hersteller DESCHLER & S. / MÜNCHEN 9, BM vs/em. Eur 45.-

My brother has the above-mentioned pin badge with Jubiläumsschildchen 25"... ;-)

Ciao,

Claudio

Forgot to say, that I would put these badges in the forum under "Weimar Republik", not imperial. Infact such badges were created by the veterans' association well after 1918.

C

Wow Chris!.... that's a stunning German unifications wars medal bar.... with the Russian St. George Cross really highly desirable...

Ciao,

Claudio

Another NCO group with an interesting Württemberg-Weimar Eisenach connection, to see and read more about it, look under Offz. Stv. Luckert on this very forum.

A Württemberg's group: Medal bar group of a brave soldier

At Chris: this group is of a Prussian NCO...

Vizefeldwebel Schwantes

Thanks Chris! 

Your group is is also very appealing, especially with that Tapferkeitsmedaille! 

An other Bavarian group I also particularly like....

C

A Bavarian NCO group I particularly like... :)

Such a Great story from a front officer, such a great happy ending... Well done!  That was a very noble thing to do... A class act!

It's always a true pleasure to read your threads Thilo... Thanks for sharing!

ciao,

Claudio

Moreover the Godet's label on the back is older than the type of the grey backing usually used in the late 20ies or 30ies by Godet.

Well... What to say; it doesn't really struck me like a typical Godet bar, how the bar is constructed, the ribbons folded... The ribbons look like brand new, but the back or some threads in worse conditions... I don't know but I would definitely check the ribbons with UV light test, to see if there are old originals. There are Jerusalem crosses fakes around, but I couldn't comment on that.

C

Hi Daniel!

I didn't think no. 4 as the Swedish swords order... Because of it's placement, but it could well be: maybe the wearer of the bar thought of it more than other medals and orders on the bar.

It's cool that somebody has in his collection the little brother of this trapezoidal bar.

ciao,

C

Superb!!!! That's really a stunning Godet medal bar in pristine conditions, dear Tilo...   thanks for for showing it to us! 

Ciao, 

Claudio 

@ David: the Rumanian branch of the house order of Hohenzollern was a dynastic order as the German one, with different classes (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Order_of_Hohenzollern#Romanian_House_Order 

@ Wild Card: thanks a lot for your kind words

Claudio

Very similar to the German one...

http://www.ordersandmedals.net/World/Rumania/Rumania.htm

Thanks guys... Your words of appreciation count a lot to me. 

C

PS: I pm'd you Chris

Dear Forumites,

I'd like to show to you, my dear friends, my latest purchase; a super-mega long trapezoidal ribbon bar (old style) with the following ribbons

• Preussen, EK 1914 am Kämpferband
• Mecklenburg-Schwerin, MVK 2. Kl. am Kämpferband für Auszeichnung im Kriege
• Hohenzollern, silberne Verdienstmedaille mit Schwertern
• Sachsen, Friedrich-August-Medaille am Friedensband (why the gilded swords device???)
• Deutsches Reich (1871-1918), Südwestafrika-Denkmünze (in Stahl very likely)
• Preussen, DA für Unteroffiziere
• Preussen, Medaille des Roten Adler-Ordens
• Rumänien, Treudienst-Orden (cross?)
• Rumänien, Hohenzollern Hausorden (which class?)
• Grossbritannien, Royal Victorian Order (MVO or RMV?)
• Sachsen, Friedrich-August-Medaille am Kriegsband (why on the bottom of the bar???)

Very likely the wearer of this bar was an functionary  (or page) at the principality court of the princes of Hohenzollern in Sigmaringen (South Germany) and probably served in the 40th fusiliers regiment "Fürst Karl-Anton von Hohenzollern (see also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Füsilier-Regiment_„Fürst_Karl-Anton_von_Hohenzollern“_(Hohenzollernsches)_Nr._40 ), which explains the Rumanian orders on the bar (see connections of the Principality of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen with the Kingdom of Rumania: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_I_of_Romania ). Maybe there're further connections to the Saxon or Mecklenburg-Schwerin ribbons.

Any corrections or clues that would enable to finally give a name to this bar would be most thankfully appreciated!

Thanks in advance and enjoy the pictures!

ciao,

Claudio

Ferdinand not Friedrich von Quast; 

http://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_von_Quast_(General)

Oberbefehlshaber der 6. Armee... See on the postcard, A.O.K. 6.

greetings,

Claudio

More pictures of other awards... on closer inspection of the Mrs. A Brunner-Winter signatures on some documents, it looks as if the signatures were carbon-copied... or at least they look strange to me. It would be nice to have them checked personally, first hand.

His Wound Badge :

Lot Nr. 6262
Adolf Hitler - a Wound Badge in Black  
Plain hollow-struck issue on a vertical attachment pin. Dimensions 42.5 x 37.5 mm. Without maker's designation.
Hitler was awarded the Wound Badge in Black on 18 May 1918 as a Gefreiter (Lance Corporal) and combat despatch runner while serving with 3rd Company, Bavarian Reserve Infantry Regiment no. 16 (List). 
With the written attestation dated 4 October 1969 by Anny Brunner-Winter, Hitler's housekeeper at his Munich apartment on Prinzregentenplatz 16 from 1929 to 1945, that this Wound Badge in Black from the 1st World War came from the personal possession of Hitler, together with an old photo from the history photo archives of Heinrich Hoffmann and a photo of Hitler's military pass with an entry for the Wound Badge in Black.