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Good Morning Gents, I have the possibility of purchasing this tunic. Heer Unteroffizier piped parade tunic, with the upsidedown collar tress. Its in pretty good condition. I want to know what the Esteemed Gentlemen think this tunic is worth.... so i can approach the seller and make a decent offer that he will not sneeze at. Comments appreciated! thanks! Best regards paul

Heiko, i love those bars of yours! wow! u must have alot of them! CR! What a spectacular bar! I want One! Can we see close up of the documents please? Regards Paul

Hi Dave, Nic Bars! Thanks for showing! Now one question... I have seen a few bars with the single prong for suspending the medal on the reverse...with the medal beign attached from the front. Why would the Jeweller /assembler leave this pin there and carefully cut a hole for it to poke thru the felt backing...? Perhaps as a tensioning device for keeping the bars pin closed? hmmmmm....worth thinking about... Cheers Gents Paul

Hello Gents, The bar i posted in post #41 has arrived, and i was perusing this thread and noticed that in post #39 there is a Baden War merit cross there with a different ribbon to my one... Now i was led to understand that these medals were only awarded in Non-combattants guise... correct me if i am wrong....But what does the other ribbon signify? home service perhaps? Also the medal itself...there seems to be two variations of this medal. One is like mine...all Matt grey with a silver center inlay... I have seen another on this thread that has a goldenish colour....with silver inlay... Now what gives?? were there different grades of this medal? or is it a jewllers copy that a vet had made? Thanks for your help gents....its all good knowledge gained! Regards Paul

Cheers Jason. I am curious about these bars...and before i leap in at the deep end...i want to learn about these bars. So i have been looking at one with the Paris and Gravelotte St privat bars but do not want to buy a fakery. That saxon bar is quite cute! cheers mate! I am still looking in wonder at the Bar that came this morning...its soo much nicer to behold in the hands! anyway i will look at more examples of the campaign bars... i will photoshop it a bit more and see if i can get it to show up better........ Regards Paul

Yes Please! I would love to know what they are too! Thanks Regards Paul

Wildcard, That makes sense to me. It explains alot! thanks for that. Cheers Paul

Awesome clasps Heiko! Keep them coming Gents!

Dave, whats this IIRC?? Hi Jason, Thanks for the vote of confidence... Yes i like these bars too! And that is a spectacular bar! Can i see a close up of the Gravelotte bar? Cheers Paul

WOW! Spectacular Bar! Thanks Dave! WoW! i bet that cost a motza! Cheers Paul

Thanks Dave! Nice Bars! Am contemplating getting a bar like the one above...with two campaign bars on it.... I just love these old ones!

Thanks Paul! Dave, yes that is Technically right. The Bar itself is not that old... but it does represent a mans contribution to these wars....over 130 years ago.. I like it anyway

and here is the reverse of the bar! Comments appreciated! Thanks Gents!

Hello Gents, Look at what the postman brought this morning! A beautiful 1866 trio medalbar! I love these old bars....so much history and over 130 yrs old too! I wonder of we could pin a thread about medals and Medalbars from the 1800's? Be a good reference for newbies.... anyway enjoy! Regards Paul

Hello Gents, i was just browsing through the forums, as one does to gai knowledge. The Japanese Document above is indeed about Showa. I have a Japanese Girlfriend and she is in Japan at present. I sent this document to her and this is what she says it is....... about the letter, in Japan, we have to take a census ( the state [condition] of a country) per 4 years.. Japanese and foreing people live in Japan too!! so this year is a census year in this Oct.. a census taker can get this letter. my mom is a census taker!! so she has same letter now.!! showa is the name of an era.. in Japan, it changes by emperor. now, it's " heisei" !! because showa emperor died 17 years ago.. we have many the name of an ra.. for example, "taisyo" "edo" "heisei" "showa".. can you understand? sorry poor my English. So there you go! Oh!, and Laurence...post your document that you want transalated and i'll get her to look at it... Cheers Gents Paul

Well you have made me paranoid...i have had dealings with Baff002.... like stogie says...some are good some aint.... But now i am more nervous........

Thankyou Dave! Excellent reference indeed. Are you possibly going to add the service medals to the categories? I think that this would be most helpful. Best regards Paul Please gents....i need an estimation...negotiations are in place....and i want to get this bar! But i am not that rich ( or crazy!) i can afford to buy everything in sight...so have to be choosy and pick up certain ones ( the price is right) rather than everything that i like...... it would be nice...( wishful thinking...) Many Thanks!

Stogie, what do you mean by MVK3 on a statute? Rick, thanks for the explanation on the Abbreviations, now i understand how to abbreviate the Swords and the crown. What does the MVK2X look like? Well hopefully this bar will be in my Sweaty hands, ( i will wash them first!) soon....just an aside...what you reckon its worth? More knowledge and understanding gained! makes my day! Cheers Paul

Yes a Single malt indeed! cannot drink the blended stuff! Ptui.... I may do this.( go for the lot)..but as mentioned earlier...the prices will be driven up....and up....so may push themselves outta my reach... ( Gotta be sensible here) Regards Paul

thanks Gents, I am starting to really get into these early medalbars.... Just picked up a three place bar, with Konigsgratz cross Centar and 1870-71 medal...no bars tho... And have picked up single medalbars for the 1870-71 Non combattants war medal,and combattants... Cheers, Paul

Hello Heiko, Yes i know...the pics are not so good. Its all i have at present. I am going to take it. Thanks again. Regards Paul

Thanks Heiko! I sort of knew thats what it was... I still want to know what the abbreviation is for it MVKCX? The second bar? really? ok cool I was under the impression that it might be a Bavarian Reservists Medal 2nd class. But its nice to know that its a peacetime ribbon on the MVK Thanks again! Paul

Well, i am going to keep an eye on it anyway...and see what happens... I am tempted to try for the Medal LESS Bar...could replace the medlas individually easily enough... BUT! I would like the whole group! and its thanks to people like this...we nver get to see these groups together ...even for sale....as GREEDY MONGRUELS want MONEY....so they just tear up History willy nilly and dont give a toss for History or that persons contribution... Harrrrumph! Gone to have a scotch...to calm down..... Regards Paul

Can you help with this one? I am perplexed as to why there is two Bavarian MVO's on this bar.... Thanks for your help gents. Regards Paul

Hello again Gents, I ahve bought a Bavarian bar on E-bay and will need t replace one medal with the correct Bavarian DA 9yrs service medal. My Question is on the MVK, Militar Verdienst Kreuz Now what abbreviations should be used when describing the medal shown? as it has both crown and swords...and what class is this one...the 3rd? I have already sourced a 9yr to complete the bar and restore it back to original. Seems to be me lately...getiing a few fix-up bars...oh well, someones gotta do it... Cheers for the help gents! Regards Paul