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Civil Merit - reverse

FAKE ALERT!!!!

Two more suspect stars, both having features similar to fakes showed in this thread. For sale by the same seller in Bulgaria.

First is Civil Merit 2nd class

Are you sure that silver cross is Bulgarian Bravery award?

Looking at the blurry photos you can't really say with certainty. Shape of the award is similar to Bravery, but image in the center does not look like Bulgarian lion.

No, they can't be researched

Interesting topic, I posted some photos on the same subject here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/59750-a-medal-for-the-liberation-of-belgrade/

By the way tomorrow is the military parade marking 70 years since the liberation of Belgrade. This will be the biggest parade since 1985.

Yesterday was the rehearsal, I made couple of photos and videos, will try to upload them later.

Russian President Putin attended celebraions and parade.

He was awarded Order of Serbian Republic 1st class on large chain. This is supposedly the highest award of Serbia.

Here's the link to video, Putin recives award on 40 seconds into the video:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/multimedia/2014/10/141016_putin_visit_serbia

Dokument 1880 Nr. 20

Super rare document!

Thanks!

Photos of a "museum level replica" that has recently appeared on ebay.

It is offered by the same seller that has those Yugoslav Grand Stars and Double Dragons both already discussed on the forum.

Hideous piece, those women look scary, especially the one in the center medallion!

Simply amazing that Igor managed to do this research on normally unnamed award!!!

Do you have a scan of second doc?

Pierce - welcome!

In your initial post there are TWO documents to Milch. What's the other document?

I have managed to get a good clear copy of the award cert for the Military Merit Order.

It's for Grand Cross.

Awarded to Lieutanant-General E Milch, State Secretary of Aviation Ministry.

Very impressive doc! Do whether it's in a museum or in a collection?

These look like 2 different documents.

Grand and 1st class are not the same.

Do you have full pics of his documents?

Lieutenant Milch at the time of awarding was a Secretary in German Ministry of Aviation.

He later became a Fieldmarshal in Nazi Germany.

Another rear admiral

RE: Admiral in Post #17 - his group was sold by a major dealer some years ago, I don't remember his name - have to look through my archive.

This is scary development.

Until now there were no decent fakes of mid and low level Bulgarian awards, only high classes and stars.

It looks like fakers are moving downstream, so watch out!

Numbered one

More questions than answers...

By the way - what do you mean by "not professionally". How is handwork by an artisan less professional then mechanical stamping?

The engraving is done excellently, far better then Soviet Mint engraving of that time.

Lastly, we shouldn't forget that the Labor Heroes weren't produced on stock. Every piece was commissioned solely, assembled and finished one at a time.

I meant not done at the state mint, not in the same facility where awards were made.

I have Hero award from last emission in my collection.

Award in question looks mosty fine (except for the stones). It seems to be completely missing silver plating on the reverse of center star though.

I don't understand what you mean. there are numbered versions and there are unnumbered ones.

Vast majority of these awards were without numbers.

One numbered example that I saw had number that looked like it was not done professionlly - it looked engraved rather than stamped, like on most Yugoslavian awards.

In my book these numbers were not placed on the awards on the mint.

Techically hard enamel is not that complex to do if one has the equipment (it involves a stove to reach proper temperature for enamel powder to bake).

I suspect dark area on the edge is result of chemical reaction between metal, enamel and air, meaning the fakers didn't get the process down completely or didn't use correct materials.

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Other than that: too expensive for this damaged unnumbered version.

It's not supposed to be numbered.

Both documents are 3rd class.

Nice docs!

...Although the #2 makes it a bit more special....

#2 means very little, it's just number of documents issued within certain year. Note the date is January 5th, #2 means the document was given early in the year.

That number has no effect on the price!

I think it is way overpriced!