Bill Garvy

"L/19", Ferdinand Hoffstatter, obverse. . . [attachmentid=26294]

reverse. . . [attachmentid=26293]

"15" by Frederich Orth. . . [attachmentid=26292]

Dave, funny you should mention B. H Meyer, because here is an unmarked example for comparison. The clasp on the example in my first post is round wire, and not the flattened type I have seen on Meyer manufactured crosses. obverse: reverse: clasp & vaulting: I'm leaning toward Deumer, with the outside possibly of Juncker manufacture, especially in the absence of any additionally compelling evidence. I really enjoy thinking "out loud" with you on this, in a manner of speaking. . .

These are all real possibilities, David. I especially like the Deumer idea. I've just not seen a Steinhauer & L?ck with a clasp as shown in the first post, although the other components appear quite similar. I agree. I'd llke to hear others' thinking on the matter. . .

I see the similarity, but in both instances the clasps are quite simliar, and do not match the narrow round clasp shown in my first post. For the time being, however, I'm not ruling out Steinhauer as a possible manufacturer. Any other thoughts?

David, Thank you for your input, but I don't think its a Steinhauer & L?ck. Here's a Steinhauer & L?ck from my collection for comparison. Note the enhanced detail on the obverse, the variant style pin and hinge, and no vaulting. It does have that classic Steinhauer clasp though. . . obverse: reverse: clasp:

Here are some additional views of the clasp and pin from the reverse. . . clasp & pin: clasp & vaulting:

I enjoy collecting what I call "hybrid" Iron Crosses, that is, Imperial (1914) issue Iron Crosses manufactured during World War II. Here is an unmarked Iron Cross in 1st Class recently added to my collection. I was wondering if someone could help me identify the possible manufacturer of this cross. Let me know if you need more pictures, and thank you for your interest! obverse: reverse:

reverse with maker stamp for "24", Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller. . . [attachmentid=25314]

Another envelope of issue. . . [attachmentid=25312]

maker mark. . . [attachmentid=25310]

reverse. . . [attachmentid=25309]

Here is another. Joe Campbell should remember this one. . . [attachmentid=25307]

Gentlemen, I believe that was indeed the intended purpose. . .

gasp at the horror. . . another view of the crime scene:

still more. . . inner obverse: inner reverse: the two sacrificial crosses at autopsy:

more. . . four piece cross: obverse: reverse:

more. . . obverse inner: reverse inner: two piece frame:

Another of our collector colleagues, cool, posted these pictures over at the M.C.F. of a couple of four piece Iron Crosses in 2nd Class shamelessly vivisected to bring us these pictures of the autopsy. . . Pictures used with permission of "cool", so thanks are in order. . . obverse of sacrificial Imperial Iron Cross in 2nd Class: two piece core, obverse: two piece core reverse:

Yes, Dan, if you look at the reverse scan, in the lower left hand corner of the left arm of teh cross, a bit of the core can be seen. It is not brass, and as you have postulated, appears to be made of nickel silver or neusilber.

This example grabbed my attention the other day, if for no other reason than it's unmarked, with a unique one piece construction, and non-magnetic core. Comments welcome! obverse: reverse:

Thank you, gentlmen, for your responses. Interestingly, I was told the original owner was a Navy man. . .

Can any one help me identify the maker mark on this otherwise beautiful Iron Cross in 2nd Class? Any and all help appreciated! obverse: reverse: maker mark:

Note the location of the "800" mark by the hinge, and the view of the clasp reveals its gentle vaulting. . . "800" mark by the hinge: clasp: