Dave, funny you should mention B. H Meyer, because here is an unmarked example for comparison. The clasp on the example in my first post is round wire, and not the flattened type I have seen on Meyer manufactured crosses. obverse: reverse: clasp & vaulting: I'm leaning toward Deumer, with the outside possibly of Juncker manufacture, especially in the absence of any additionally compelling evidence. I really enjoy thinking "out loud" with you on this, in a manner of speaking. . .