Komtur

5 hours ago, graham said:

... Swords on top of the cross were peacetime awards, swords through the cross were wartime awards. ...

 

Indeed the Romanian decoration of Wiesmann seems to be one of the few wartime awards to Germans. At the time of the Russo-Turkish War in 1877/78, when the Romanians fought on the Russian side, there was a station of the Prussian Feldjäger in Bucharest. Very likely Wiesmann was appointed there at this time. His Romanian wartime decoration was first mentioned in the Prussian rank list of 1881, a quite normal delay between a war, the afterwards occuring awards and the publication of these awards in the rank lists.

The deorations with swords on the top of the cross, as to be seen on the bar shown by Vince, were in contrast awards to military personnel in peacetime.

Forstmeister Albert Wiesmann

Another double Oldenburg group:

House and Merit Order of Peter Friedrich Ludwig Knight Cross 1st class with swords:

He is wearing a Domherrenkreuz.

And indeed he was Domherr von Naumburg.

The matching bar:

49 minutes ago, David M said:

So is OEK2 the austrian iron crown order 2nd class? Pretty high for a hof fourier with 4th class awards

No, this is a more appropriate Oldenburg Ehrenkreuz 2. Klasse:

Hofamtsrat Oskar Vater

Ehrenkreuz 2. Klasse mit Eichenbruch: 22. Januar 1918

3 hours ago, aviaticus said:

The first name Johannes would match to Hans, however, the correct date of birth for the wanted Hans Wilkens is 01.07.1897.

Regards,

G.O.

Could you please tell me the source of the birth date? 

Thanks and regards, Komtur 

On 17/07/2020 at 20:05, Komtur said:

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5. Inofficial Colombian Cross with a inscription on the reverse side: A / HANS WILKENS / CONTADOR DE LA EXPE= / DICION AEREA INTER= / AMERICANA AL INICIARSE / TE SERVICIO DE COLOMBRIA. / SEPTIEMBRE 1925. / EL CONCEJO MUNICIPAL DE B. QUILLA / A. LOMBARDI

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The name is engraved as part of the inscription of the last decoration. This memory cross is fixed so strongly, that it is impossible to take a picture of the reverse side.

2 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

... Could somebody please clarify why Hans Wilkens received these 2 Columbian medals?  ...

Wilkens got the Colombian decoration for his services in connection with transfering two flying boats of the Dornier Do J type (civil version) from Europe to America. The memory cross on the last position of the bar shows the route of the Central America flight of the Dornier ATLANTICO and PACIFICO in August 1925. On the picture with this two flying boats before starting for this flight Wilkens is to be seen as a member of the crew.

With great input of Andreas ? the mystery of the last decoration could be solved:

2 hours ago, BlackcowboyBS said:

... (Dem) Buchhalter der interamerikanischen Luftexpedition zu Beginn (des) Colombria-Dienstes (im) September 1925. Der Gemeinderat von B. Quila A. Lombard  ...

Thank you very much!

Just now a collector friend found a citation of the Colombian award to Hans Wilkens. The content of the article would be of great interest to me:

Could someone please help to translate the inscription on the reverse side of the last decoration of this medal bar?

Thanks in advance, Komtur.

Medalbar with:

1. Iron Cross 2nd class 1914

2. Bremen Hanseatic Cross

3. German Honour Cross of the World War (for front-line veterans)

4. Colombia Centennial Cross of Boyaca (1922-1928)

5. Inofficial Colombian Cross with a inscription on the reverse side: A / HANS WILKENS / CONTADOR DE LA EXPE= / DICION AEREA INTER= / AMERICANA AL INICIARSE / TE SERVICIO DE COLOMBRIA. / SEPTIEMBRE 1925. / EL CONCEJO MUNICIPAL DE B. QUILLA / A. LOMBARDI

Is there a Hans Wilkens to be found in the Bremen Hanseatic Cross rolls?

Thanks in advance, Komtur.

6 hours ago, Deruelle said:

... It is strange that the SA3a he received on 24 May 1909 is not on his medal bar. ...

He got the officer cross in 1917.

On 15/04/2020 at 17:38, Deruelle said:

Hello,

Here is Bernhard Karl Hermann Thedel Graf Kielmansegg

... and here is his medal bar:

1 hour ago, arb said:

The 1870 Marine Rangliste shows the "Hohenzollernsche Denkmünze" among his awards and decorations.  I believe that is the one you are asking about.

 

This medal was my first thought. But looking at his career in Hildebrand/Henriots Deutsche Admirale, I was wondering, how he was able to receive it.

1 minute ago, Kriegsmarine Admiral said:

Thanks. So are they the same thing or?

I think so.

See here.

5 + 21 Stern vom Ehrengroßkomturkreuz des Großherzoglich Oldenburgischen Haus- und Verdienstordens des Herzogs Peter Friedrich Ludwig.

Only a few stars are to be worn on tht right site, the Oldenburg Ehrengroßkomturkreuz star is one of them.

11 + 24 Stern vom Großkreuz des k.u.k. Österreichischen Franz-Joseph-Ordens

8 Stern of the Roter Adler-Orden 2. Klasse mit Eichenlaub und Krone ???

The crown belongs to the crosses, the star is always without a crown.

1 hour ago, Henke said:

 

Thanks, so he was like working for the military but not serving at the front?

He was at least 2 weeks in military service, but didn´t leave Germany.

It is the official medal-ribbon combination (Kriegs-Denkmünze von Stahl am Combattanten-Bande) for stay at home service of military personnel.

Couldn´t the ribbon represent a Militärsanitätsorden too?

1 hour ago, Dave Danner said:

The SLH4 was awarded on 15. October 1907, so a little over 2 1/2 months.

Thank you, that is always of interest and seems in the frame of timerange of that delay I noticed until now.