Thanks Grant, The front is quite nice in natural light with what looks like some frosting in the 'hard to reach' parts with nicely polished highlights. The swords do look cast being a bit shrunken on the reverse and there maybe an area to the top right of the Oaks were casting bubbles are evident or this may just be a rough finish - I would like more opinions if possible. With regard to dating - I still have no idea but they did come with the case so Grant, would it be fair ro say that they are at least original 1957 Oaks and Swords? Regards ...