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The two full size badges are published examples if I'm not mistaken, the engraved land flyer badge can be found in all three books from Carsten, Pandis and Previtera with extra detailed presentations. The other one I posted is published in Carstens book as well. @Lubo you can find the photos here.

If your badge has the same measure of height and width as other samples, I would say that your badge was struck from the original dies used to produce period samples, the period badges with backing plate also have the front piece made from die struck. Yours were struck with less pressure therefore softer details BUT the key features seem to be all there. In this case it might be a private purchase piece made after the war using the original tool with different fitting hardware for price reduction or upon specific requirement from customer, just one plausible theory though. How did you test the silver content? Is any marks on the pin or elsewhere?

You're right the period badges made by Godet have back plate with radial pattern as well as unique hinge and pin design. Keep it in mind that Godet navy flyer badges were made in exceptionally small quantity(less than 10 known examples to exist today, with sea pilot, land pilot and observer all included), that makes any variation from different hardware setup to poorer details due to lower striking force or tool being worn highly unlikely, that's why I don't think your badge is war time made judging from the completely different hardware and the details. Here you can see the level of details on period badge.

Hi Arend, the linked badge is a well known fake. But the pattern of your badge is a known design from Godet, see examples here. However the details on your example judging from the low quality photos are a bit too soft, IMO not war time made. I wait for opinions from other navy flyer badge collectors.

I could download the photos and here they are.

Impressive bar, price is fair IMO.

You're right it's a known fake.

Be very careful, there're some new fakes, look at the hinge pin. https://www.ebay.de/itm/335751262530?itmmeta=01JGCWPPN53M7TQEYBYFBQTQFR&hash=item4e2c55b142:g:ZpsAAOSws95nctpF&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAAwMxmj%2BiGvOveHXEBClPb29h1dwCzutnUgij4WFUTdQzEgtv6qNCsBT0aVUF8Y%2BXIK4AZyqWbpNlt9nTZ8TMI2ufyQ6uR8esYnavij9FSzsgmzfXdPHao23Bwf%2FXrGduQGJgHT4WHeTdbIZY%2BpseNLKv148YT%2BQsz3w6HzbhRxsPu2%2Bfk2yhpj98gJXscZCLgRXsc59RDkl1sz98%2Ff3T4OyFyZMw%2F2rJ7I38vBQf5dYYuVJ%2Bfo6YiVSgNjfRUsjmdXQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9Tq2pyDZQ

Lovely bronze gilt interwar piece by Maybauer.

Looks like a decent interwar PLM. Congratulations!

Beautiful fake https://www.ebay.de/itm/315783002275

I was watching as well. IMO the St.Michael, Iron Halfmoon, HoH, KO, 1870EK2 and SA are fine pieces. RAO, Iron Crown and the Brunswick order might be some wearer's replacement pieces.

Cold enamel, soft and missing details. Very dangerous fakes, several were sold even by auction house in recent years.

Sorry but that one is a fake. Here is an original one sold on ebay, with enamel damaged. https://www.ebay.de/itm/186682865694

That’s a good MVO, tarnished but nothing wrong.

Another extraordinary and extensive paperwork grouping of an retired air gunner, including award certificates for air gunner badge, retired pilot badge and EKs. Both air badge certificates are very hard to find. ----- Unmarked Karl Poellath Bavarian pilot badge

--------------- ---------- ---------- ------- ------- ------ ------ ------ ------- AWS Jubilee cross ------ ------- ------ ------ Another FAI license -------- ------- ------ ------

An extraordinary Freikorps paperwork grouping, including certificate for Iron Division medal, Kurland medal, Baltic cross and EK2.

I woke up at 3AM to watch the bid jump from 300 to 1300USD, still a pretty good deal.

Common fake, nothing close to original with this one. There're many good reference in the forum, do the study yourself.

I believe this one is put together by the Austrian faker.

No it’s not

The bar and everything else look fine.

It's a crude cast fake not spangestuck.

It wasn't sold I could see, and now relisted with lowered price still overpriced IMO. The cross is fine and in pretty good condition, typical Scharffenberg piece.