Mike

Here's the Iraqi copy of it ...I believe it's called the "Al-Sujat medal".

Thanks for that Humber! The last time I was in a RA Lodge was 4 years ago and I don't remember seeing them worn ...could be old age though Can you explain anything about more that Rosicrusian Jewel? I don't know anything about them and ...since it has "Anglia" on it , could it be for a UK chapter? much to learn with these things !

I guess I've been collecting WW2 so long I never noticed any of them before ..they are a class act. Does anyone know what that Masonic one sold for ?

Here's the back --

This came with the other RA medals I just posted but ...I don't have a clue what it is . It does remind me a little of an Iraqi Award . Well made , single rivit in the center . It has the same style bar on the ribbon as the Royal Arch ...you don't suppose Saddam was a Mason and copied......nahhh

Here's the back ...it's a little fuzzy (sorry)

Could it be Rosicrucian ?

I've never seen one of these before and ..I'm not sure if it's even Masonic

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Hi Gents ...I just bought some new medals and thought I'd post them. There are 2 that I've never seen before ..maybe you have. The first ones are Royal Arch , not sure what they were awarded for unless ...maybe these were the same as a PM Jewel ?

There must be more items from the Gormogons that survived ...maybe headgear , membership paperwork ...something. Even though they say -"There is no evidence of any other members other than Wharton and Dennis."They show 2 items ..the medals and the Jewels , so someone had to put up some money to have them made. Strange ...almost sounds like a skit from Monty Python

Hi Ralph ...here's another shot

I know that "Tannenberg" and "Sedan" were huge German Victories ...Hindenburg was even in command for the Tannenberg battle. Since Hindenburg was sworn in as Chancellor in 1925 . The only thing I can think of is that this was made by the Nazi's in an attempt to get the Veterans support for the Party (and Hindenburg's attention) and used at (maybe?) the ground-breaking ceremony when they built the Tannenberg Monument (just a guess) ...another possibility is the Ludendorf connection, he started the Tannenberg Bund ..but this pin has "Sedan" and the dates so , I don't think it's a Bund pin. Then I thought maybe it's not Party related but ..I don't think anyone in Germany would be using the Swastika as a good luck symbol in 1925 because of the connection with the Party ..so I ruled that out Could it be one of the first tinnies produced while he was re building the Party after Prison ? ..(nice to dream huh?) Have any of you ever owned one like it ...Please let me know

Nice paper tag ! ....could it be an early Nazi pin trying to draw support from the Vets ?

I can't find it in any of my books, Maybe a Veteran Comm pin for the battles? ...the pin has been bent to the side. Have any of you ever seen one before?

Great site Tony ...I did not find anything about Captain Hall listed either but , I still have to check out the rest of the site and the Links they listed. Thanks for that.

Do you think I should have started a separate thread for this instead of putting it with this POW grouping ?

IMO ..the Japanese Government/Military got off way too easy and should have been held fully accountable for the crimes they committed during the War. I read that today their History books don't even acknowledge any of it. Here we are 60 years later and this poor Veteran is still paying the price ...it's a shame. Check out this article --- http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=1...-name_page.html 7 February 2006 EXCLUSIVE: POW LIVED IN HIDING IN HIS OWN HOME FOR 60 YEARS By Nick Sommerlad A 100-YEAR-old former Japanese prisoner of war has been found hiding in his own home after 60 years. The old soldier returned to Britain a broken man after working on the infamous Burma Railway and was cared for in secret by his late wife and then by his daughter. His plight only came to light after his unmarried daughter died. Council staff went to the house in southern England to remove her body and found the old man living in a back room. Until then no-one knew he was still alive, including social workers who delivered the daughter's meals on wheels, neighbours and the Ministry of Defence. Now the veteran has told the ex-serviceman's mental illness charity Combat Stress how he suffered post-traumatic stress during his horrific time in the Far East. During the building of the Burma Railway, 120,000 prisoners and forced labourers died. The charity said it was "most extreme" example of battlefield stress they had ever seen. Toby Elliott, chief executive of Combat Stress, said: "Nobody knew anything about this man. He had not been seen since the war. He explained to us what happened to him and had the military papers to prove it. "He was a PoW in the Far East and worked on the Burma Railway. "As well as the physical damage, quite a few were driven insane by the privations they suffered. "He came home in 1945 a broken man and his family hid him away. "He was looked after by his wife and then by his eldest daughter, who never married." Neighbours believed the daughter lived alone. So did the social workers who often visited. Mr Elliott added: "The Ministry of Defence knew nothing about his case. "It was only after the death of the daughter late last year, when the social services went in to deal with removing the body, that they discovered this man in the back room. He told us himself what happened to him. "It is the most extreme example we have encountered of combat stress." The veteran has no surviving relatives and is now living in a nursing home. Mr Elliott added: "There is no more we could do for him. He is as happy as he can be." The Burma Railway was built by the Japanese between 1942 and 1943 to link Thailand with Burma. Around 60,000 allied prisoners of war were forced to work on it and 6,300 British PoWs died. Of the total death toll of 120,000, most were conscripted Asian labourers. Their ordeal was turned into the epic film Bridge on the River Kwai in 1957. After the railway was finished in 1943, most allied PoWs were taken to Japan. Many of those who were released in 1945 continued suffering the physical and psychological effects of their ordeal for the rest of their lives. Combat Stress - also known as the Ex-Services Mental Welfare Society - was formed in 1919 to treat shell-shocked soldiers returning from the First World War. mirrornews@mgn.co.uk

I hate to say it but ...I bet in a year or so ...they'll be making them in Latvia ! Real and Authentic too !

"Three divers had to loosen 145 bolts securing the 300kg (661lb) eagle to the stern of the craft " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4702832.stm I'm glad it was saved , but I wonder who owns it now. I think I could convince my Wife that I ....naaa , she wouldn't go for it

Hi Tom , I'm glad you like the group . I still have 2 more of the programs ...pretty interesting. Maybe they didn't have to get a Charter or involve Grand Lodge since they were a "Club"? ..I wonder

I can't figure out the deal with that catch either ...strange

A local Antique Dealer bought this from (literally) a Fire sale ..the rest of the Militaria they had was burned & tossed out ..but they saved this because of the Swas ...it cost me a whole $10 ! Now that I've hit this end of the spectrum ....I really hope the next one I find is in good shape (ugh)

Just one of the many forgotten "tiles" that helped make up the overall mosaic of WW2 As the years went by , I wonder if they stayed in touch

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