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I came across this table of stats on German wiki and I wanted to know if the names are known of the 34 German holders of the 1st Class of this award? No source was given there unfortunately.
I assume the names are out there as the figures seem to be detailed and not just rounded off.
Thank you
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17 minutes ago, Carol I said:
The Honour Cross only had two classes, with 1st class the higher grade and 2nd class the lower one.
Perfect. Thanks again.
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Carol I,
Just two more questions-
What were the Award Grades in the Honour Cross series?
Was the 1st Class the highest grade?
Thanks
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On 31/01/2006 at 03:47, Wild Card said:
Gentlemen,
Although not awards, per se, I thought it appropriate to show the two custom buttonhole ribbon groups below. I believe that both were worn by Kaiser Wilhelm, at least the one on the right is so attributed; and I know that a full length picture of him wearing it exists somewhere, but unfortunately, I can not locate it.
Incidentally, this illustration comes from J?rg Nimmergut?s B?nderkatalog.
Yours truly,
Wild Card
What are the award ribbons worn on the buttonhole here (fig.753)?
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On 06/05/2016 at 16:04, Carol I said:
There are actually two distinctions that share both name and insignia elements. The first one (historically and in importance) is the Honour Sign and later Order for Merit, established in 1931. The second one is the Honour Cross for Merit established in 1933. They were initially established as dynastic awards, but were included in the national system of orders in the late 1930s and were both very scarce. The image initially posted by P.F. is the 1st class of the Honour Cross. The image posted by Paul is the first class of the order. To increase the confusion, bear in mind that the Order for Merit had as insignia a white cross surrounded by a golden thorn crown and that the same insignia was placed on the central medallion of the Honour Cross and the first class of the order.
The photos below (from source, but ultimately from Life magazine) show first Ernest Urdareanu, Minister of the Court during the reign of King Carol II, and Gheorghe Tatarescu, Prime Minister during the reign of King Carol II, both wearing the officer's badge of the Order for Merit.
The gallery of premiers on the government homepage shows an earlier photo of Tatarescu wearing the knight's cross of the Order for Merit.
Carol I
Thank you for this detailed post. Noting the distinction between the Order and Honour Cross has really helped my understanding.
Kind regards
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Thank you Paul. I had read online (wiki) that there were 112 bestowals during this period...and another source there gave 116.
Kind regards
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18 minutes ago, paul wood said:
It is indeed the Commander's Cross
It is most likely that there were German Recipients as 570 bestowals were made in all classes to non Romanians 70 Grand Cross, 99 Grand Officer's, 243 Commander's, 106 Officer's and 52 Knights, it is most likely that the vast majority of these were bestowed prior to 1941, possibly some of our Third Reich aficionados may have evidence, either documentary or photographic.
Paul
Paul,
Thank you again. Is there any photos of the Grand Cross? I cannot find any
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Paul,
Thank you for your informative replies.
The image I posted- is that the Commander Cross?
Thanks
Pierce3 hours ago, paul wood said:The statutes permitted awards to foreigners.
Paul
Any record, photographic or otherwise, of high ranking Germans receiving this award?0 -
Hi,
I write to ask for some information on the Romanian Honour Cross of the Order of Merit. I can find very little online.
1. Was this Order given during period 1930-1945?
2. Was it awarded to foreign military personnel (German)?
3. Could someone please post a photo of the Grand Cross during this period?
Many thanks
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Lukasz
I sincerely appreciate this thorough response to my question.
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Gentlemen,
Would someone be good enough to provide the measurements of the following, issued during the Admiral Horthy period:
Hungarian Order of Merit- Commander Cross
Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Officer Cross (the neck order)
Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Cross (not the breast star)
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On 14/02/2016 at 17:51, drspeck said:
Hi all, thanks for all the info.
Some good points have been put forward. It's an interesting combo. The Oldenburg cross makes me think it's a naval officer, but the Westwall medal and the field-grey backing makes me think it is Heer...
Do we know of any full lists of names for the 2nd class 1918 and/or the 2nd and higher classes for the 41+ recipients?
On a different note, does anyone have a spare device for a ribbon bar for a 3rd or 4th class cross? This bar came without....
Regards. Peter
Hi Peter,
Certainly there were many Heer officers with the Oldenburg FA Cross. The West Wall and the field-gre backing made me think Heer as well.
I like your other bar also. Good luck finding a device for it.0 -
“Grossdeutscher Reichskriegertag Kassel 1939” Tinnie
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22 hours ago, drspeck said:
Hi all,
Could the wearer of this unnamed ribbon bar have been one of those 2nd class 1918 ricipients?
Regards. Peter
Lovely ribbon bar Peter! I don't think we can know for sure if this is a WW1 2nd Class or WW2 awarded grand cross, first class or second class decoration. The ribbons were the same.
P.S. You cannot count out the Kriegsmarine. As Andreas says, the eagle devices were the same as the Heer.
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Fantastic work Daniel. Do you know if Ballas end the War as Oberst?
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Since the LS Medal is an enlisted grade award, wouldn't #2 more likely be the Zahringen Merit Cross?
Is it not a Landwehr Decoration?
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VERY NICE!! what is his last award on the on the fracksprange?
Chuck
That's the Swedish Order of Vasa.
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Most impressive frackspange.
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A fantastic, and very personal grouping Chris.
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Thanks, PF! Makes perfect sense. Would that be EfE with swords?
Yes.
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Polish Order of the White Eagle 1921-1939- number awarded?
in Central & Eastern European States
Posted
Thanks for your reply. Yes, this is the page I found but I also came across this one:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Odznaczeni_Orderem_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego_(II_Rzeczpospolita
Here there are 116 recipients listed, including Hermann Göring, which is probably a mistake!
Does Wesolowski give the names of recipients?