P.F.

22 hours ago, lambert said:

For bravery ? Thank P.F.

Lambert

No this is not the War Ribbon.

This is the pre-1932 ribbon but with a later cross.

34 minutes ago, Carol I said:

Yes, it says he was the honorary adjutant between 1930-1940 and the king's military attaché in Germany.

Thank you for your help. You are the Romanian expert!

Kind regards
Pierce

21 hours ago, Carol I said:

He could have been General Gheorghe Atanasescu.

Many thanks for your reply. After translating this I think he is a good match- in particular as he was the Military Attaché to Germany at this time.

Does this article say he was the King's honorary adjutant between 1930-1940?

Kind regards
Pierce

Is there any way of working out who this General was?

The certificate is dated 12th November 1936.

Many thanks
Pierce

3 hours ago, Claudio said:

http://www.iagiforum.info/viewtopic.php?t=11178

 

In the above mentioned link you will find some of Mussolini's orders that were confiscated during his escape attempt in April 45 to Switzerland. Now they are kept in a safe of the Banca d'Italia...

 

ciao,

 

C

 

Thank you for this link Claudio.

Kind regards
Pierce

Nice genuine medal John.

A nice original grouping.

Gentlemen, thank you for your help with this.

Thanks Paul. I'm on the trail of my ancestors. Do you know if there are many online records available? As I say, this is a new area of research for me.

Pierce

Gentleman,

I hope this doesn't seem like a silly question but my knowledge in this field is limited.

Did all regular British Army soldier's receive the British War Medal as well as the UK Victory Medal?

My thanks
Pierce

I believe Prinz Friedrich zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg is wearing the Portuguese Military Order of Christ.

Hermann Göring received the Grand Cross, which counts for that one but I have not been able to find out many recipients of the 1st Class.

Here are three:

-Generalfeldmarschall Walther von Brauchitsch
-Generaloberst Franz Halder
-Generalleutnant Ludwig Keiper

He is wearing three breast stars:

Order of the Crown, Grand Cross

Order of SS. Maurice & Lazarus, Grand Cross

Order of the Colonial Star, Grand Cross

18 minutes ago, Lukasz Gaszewski said:

I have looked into my sources. There were 112 recipients (24 Poles and 88 foreigners) between 1921 and 1939. Some sources say 111, as one (Stanislaw Car, awarded posthumously in 1938) is not always included. I have not found any source which would prove that kings Fuad and Farouk, as well as Camillo Perini were ever awarded.

With Göring, there was a rumour a few years  ago, made by a Polish journalist who insisted that Göring was would be awarded in 1936, but the award was kept secret (!) after the war. Later on, it turned out that he simply mistook the Yugoslav Order of the White Eagle (which Göring indeed did have) with its Polish counterpart, but the affair started living its own life.

What regards Mr Wesolowski's book, I have no idea where he got his 95 recipients from. Wesolowski did a great thing, as he was probably the first person who wrote about Polish orders and medals in English. The bad thing about him is that he did not bother to update his figures in subsequent editions, even when access to the sources was facilitated.

Lukasz

Thank you for checking this.

Regarding Göring, I agree- it was a mix up with the Yugoslav Order of White Eagle, which Göring had from 1934/1935.

Kind regards
Pierce

21 minutes ago, Lukasz Gaszewski said:

Polish Wiki gives the complete list of 24 Polish (including 3 presidents ex officio) and 88 foreign recipients between 1921 and 1939, with the exact date of each award.

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego#II_Rzeczpospolita_.28lista_pe.C5.82na.29

Thanks for your reply. Yes, this is the page I found but I also came across this one:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Odznaczeni_Orderem_Or%C5%82a_Bia%C5%82ego_(II_Rzeczpospolita

Here there are 116 recipients listed, including Hermann Göring, which is probably a mistake!

On ‎06‎/‎05‎/‎2016 at 10:45, paul wood said:

Pierce,

Are you talking of the Period 1921-39? If so Wesolowski gives a figure of 95 awards (this does not include awards made by the government in exile).

Paul

Does Wesolowski give the names of recipients?

I came across this table of stats on German wiki and I wanted to know if the names are known of the 34 German holders of the 1st Class of this award? No source was given there unfortunately.

I assume the names are out there as the figures seem to be detailed and not just rounded off.

Thank you
Pierce

17 minutes ago, Carol I said:

The Honour Cross only had two classes, with 1st class the higher grade and 2nd class the lower one.

Perfect. Thanks again.

Carol I,

Just two more questions-

What were the Award Grades in the Honour Cross series?
Was the 1st Class the highest grade?

Thanks
Pierce

On ‎31‎/‎01‎/‎2006 at 03:47, Wild Card said:

Gentlemen,

 

Although not awards, per se, I thought it appropriate to show the two custom buttonhole ribbon groups below. I believe that both were worn by Kaiser Wilhelm, at least the one on the right is so attributed; and I know that a full length picture of him wearing it exists somewhere, but unfortunately, I can not locate it.

 

Incidentally, this illustration comes from J?rg Nimmergut?s B?nderkatalog.

 

Yours truly,

 

Wild Card

 

What are the award ribbons worn on the buttonhole here (fig.753)?

Thank you

On ‎06‎/‎05‎/‎2016 at 16:04, Carol I said:

There are actually two distinctions that share both name and insignia elements. The first one (historically and in importance) is the Honour Sign and later Order for Merit, established in 1931. The second one is the Honour Cross for Merit established in 1933. They were initially established as dynastic awards, but were included in the national system of orders in the late 1930s and were both very scarce. The image initially posted by P.F. is the 1st class of the Honour Cross. The image posted by Paul is the first class of the order. To increase the confusion, bear in mind that the Order for Merit had as insignia a white cross surrounded by a golden thorn crown and that the same insignia was placed on the central medallion of the Honour Cross and the first class of the order.

The photos below (from source, but ultimately from Life magazine) show first Ernest Urdareanu, Minister of the Court during the reign of King Carol II, and Gheorghe Tatarescu, Prime Minister during the reign of King Carol II, both wearing the officer's badge of the Order for Merit.

The gallery of premiers on the government homepage shows an earlier photo of Tatarescu wearing the knight's cross of the Order for Merit.

 

Carol I

Thank you for this detailed post. Noting the distinction between the Order and Honour Cross has really helped my understanding.

Kind regards
Pierce

Thank you Paul. I had read online (wiki) that there were 112 bestowals during this period...and another source there gave 116.

Kind regards
Pierce

Gentlemen,

Is the precise number of White Eagle Orders awarded for the period of the Polish 2nd Republic known?

Thank you
Pierce

18 minutes ago, paul wood said:

It is indeed the Commander's Cross

It is most likely that there were German Recipients as 570 bestowals were made in all classes to non Romanians 70 Grand Cross, 99 Grand Officer's, 243 Commander's, 106 Officer's and 52 Knights, it is most likely that the vast majority of these were bestowed prior to 1941, possibly some of our Third Reich aficionados may have evidence, either documentary or photographic.

Paul

Paul,

Thank you again. Is there any photos of the Grand Cross? I cannot find any

Pierce

Paul,

Thank you for your informative replies.

The image I posted- is that the Commander Cross?

Thanks
Pierce

3 hours ago, paul wood said:

The statutes permitted awards to foreigners.

Paul

 

Any record, photographic or otherwise, of high ranking Germans receiving this award?