P.F.

On ‎31‎/‎01‎/‎2006 at 03:47, Wild Card said:

Gentlemen,

 

Although not awards, per se, I thought it appropriate to show the two custom buttonhole ribbon groups below. I believe that both were worn by Kaiser Wilhelm, at least the one on the right is so attributed; and I know that a full length picture of him wearing it exists somewhere, but unfortunately, I can not locate it.

 

Incidentally, this illustration comes from J?rg Nimmergut?s B?nderkatalog.

 

Yours truly,

 

Wild Card

 

What are the award ribbons worn on the buttonhole here (fig.753)?

Thank you

On ‎06‎/‎05‎/‎2016 at 16:04, Carol I said:

There are actually two distinctions that share both name and insignia elements. The first one (historically and in importance) is the Honour Sign and later Order for Merit, established in 1931. The second one is the Honour Cross for Merit established in 1933. They were initially established as dynastic awards, but were included in the national system of orders in the late 1930s and were both very scarce. The image initially posted by P.F. is the 1st class of the Honour Cross. The image posted by Paul is the first class of the order. To increase the confusion, bear in mind that the Order for Merit had as insignia a white cross surrounded by a golden thorn crown and that the same insignia was placed on the central medallion of the Honour Cross and the first class of the order.

The photos below (from source, but ultimately from Life magazine) show first Ernest Urdareanu, Minister of the Court during the reign of King Carol II, and Gheorghe Tatarescu, Prime Minister during the reign of King Carol II, both wearing the officer's badge of the Order for Merit.

The gallery of premiers on the government homepage shows an earlier photo of Tatarescu wearing the knight's cross of the Order for Merit.

 

Carol I

Thank you for this detailed post. Noting the distinction between the Order and Honour Cross has really helped my understanding.

Kind regards
Pierce

Thank you Paul. I had read online (wiki) that there were 112 bestowals during this period...and another source there gave 116.

Kind regards
Pierce

Gentlemen,

Is the precise number of White Eagle Orders awarded for the period of the Polish 2nd Republic known?

Thank you
Pierce

18 minutes ago, paul wood said:

It is indeed the Commander's Cross

It is most likely that there were German Recipients as 570 bestowals were made in all classes to non Romanians 70 Grand Cross, 99 Grand Officer's, 243 Commander's, 106 Officer's and 52 Knights, it is most likely that the vast majority of these were bestowed prior to 1941, possibly some of our Third Reich aficionados may have evidence, either documentary or photographic.

Paul

Paul,

Thank you again. Is there any photos of the Grand Cross? I cannot find any

Pierce

Paul,

Thank you for your informative replies.

The image I posted- is that the Commander Cross?

Thanks
Pierce

3 hours ago, paul wood said:

The statutes permitted awards to foreigners.

Paul

 

Any record, photographic or otherwise, of high ranking Germans receiving this award?

Hi,

I write to ask for some information on the Romanian Honour Cross of the Order of Merit. I can find very little online.

1. Was this Order given during period 1930-1945?
2. Was it awarded to foreign military personnel (German)?
3. Could someone please post a photo of the Grand Cross during this period?

Many thanks
Pierce

Lukasz

I sincerely appreciate this thorough response to my question.

Thank you

Gentlemen,

Would someone be good enough to provide the measurements of the following, issued during the Admiral Horthy period:

Hungarian Order of Merit- Commander Cross
Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Officer Cross (the neck order)
Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Cross (not the breast star)

Many thanks

On ‎14‎/‎02‎/‎2016 at 17:51, drspeck said:

Hi all, thanks for all the info.

Some good points have been put forward. It's an interesting combo. The Oldenburg cross makes me think it's a naval officer, but the Westwall medal and the field-grey backing makes me think it is Heer...

Do we know of any full lists of names for the 2nd class 1918 and/or the 2nd and higher classes for the 41+ recipients?

On a different note, does anyone have a spare device for a ribbon bar for a 3rd or 4th class cross? This bar came without....

Regards. Peter

 

 

Hi Peter,

Certainly there were many Heer officers with the Oldenburg FA Cross. The West Wall and the field-gre backing made me think Heer as well.

I like your other bar also.  Good luck finding a device for it.

“Grossdeutscher Reichskriegertag Kassel 1939” Tinnie

On ‎10‎/‎02‎/‎2016 at 00:00, Stogieman said:

Here's one that visited here

Perhaps the comrade of this bar.

22 hours ago, drspeck said:

Hi all,

Could the wearer of this unnamed ribbon bar have been one of those 2nd class 1918 ricipients?

Regards. Peter

 

 

Lovely ribbon bar Peter!   I don't think we can know for sure if this is a WW1 2nd Class or WW2 awarded grand cross, first class or second class decoration. The ribbons were the same.

P.S. You cannot count out the Kriegsmarine. As Andreas says, the eagle devices were the same as the Heer.

 

Fantastic work Daniel. Do you know if Ballas end the War as Oberst?

Is it not a Landwehr Decoration?

Can you show the entire photo? This looks more like Ludendorff's awards and ribbon bar, not Hindenburg.

Some impressive medal groupings shown here already.

I can contribute this this Baden bar.

That's the Swedish Order of Vasa.

Most impressive frackspange.

A fantastic, and very personal grouping Chris.

Yes.

Looks like an Iron Cross and Honour Cross.

Same here. Nothing in the book I wanted to check.

Can you post a photo of the reverse of the bars too please?

Yes, it could just be different parts of one family grouping, or most likely just a random assortment brought back after the War. I have one more book to check (Heer) for this name.

Hi Peter,

Why rephrase- Mussolini was awarded the German Red Cross Decoration, Grand Cross, Special Class.  Not sure on the date, but I would assume 1936/1937, prior to the creation of the German Eagle Order.

Re: DAO Grand Cross- check the other thread on WAF. I have had a thought about this.

Best
Pierce