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And a few others from the Zaki book: Coast Guard Cavalry. Border Guards. Army organization/administration. Communications/signals. Maintenance.
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Here, about six months after I promised them, are some of the branch insignia from Zaki's book. I arranged these in the same order as the illustration from Carman's book which iffig kindly posted a few days back. Zaki's book lacks the insignia for the Staff College.
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iffig: Thank you for reminding me I have neglected to post images of the Egyptian branches of service from that book. I will try to get started this week. Peter: Interesting quotes, thanks for sharing! During the First World War, Egypt became a British protectorate, so it was firmly on the side of the Allies. Some Egyptian combat troops (mostly artillery) served alongside British and Imperial soldiers in the Sinai, Libya, the Sudan, Palestine and Arabia. But the most important Egyptian contribution to the war effort was the Egyptian Labour Corps and the Camel Transport Corps; hundreds of thousands of them served in the Middle East, the Mediterranean and the Western Front. Regards, Chris
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Fascinating! Thanks for posting these, Igor. Interesting to see that the Soviet officers are wearing what look like Egyptian uniforms.
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Thank you for posting, Igor - very nice photos! I've seen Egyptian award documents to Soviet officers but not photos of them wearing the medals. Do you know if the 18th Rocket Division was an air defense (SAM) or FROG/SCUD unit, or when these officers served in Egypt? Thank you! Chris
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Swastika as military symbol around the world
ChrisW replied to AndresT's topic in Rest of the World: Militaria & History
Even in the US Army.... the 45th Infantry Division used this insignia from 1924 until as late as 1939. The swastika was also a Native American symbol. -
New book on Egyptian orders and medals
ChrisW replied to ChrisW's topic in Middle East & Arab States
Owain, Many thanks for your appetite-whetting sneak preview! The book indeed sounds promising, and looks like it will live up to my high-but-realistic hopes. My own copy is probably several months away from reaching my eager hands, and I look forward to any further notes from you. I'd be particularly curious if there is any material on: - commemorative medals - unit-level military medals - Police medals - details on recipients, including numbers of medals awarded, examples of recipients, etc. It's a little surprising that the author evidently was unable or unwilling to use his position -- a major general in the police -- to gain official cooperation. Although that only increases my admiration for his DIY effort. Thanks again, Chris -
I came across this apparently new book on Egyptian orders and medals, several copies of which are available on Ebay from an Egypt-based seller. I have no additional information on the book other than what is in the listing. The book's author is an Egyptian Police major general, Samah abd al-Rahman al-Liqaani. http://www.ebay.com/itm/EGYPT-OLD-BOOK-/311527758770?hash=item4888805bb2:g:14gAAOSwa-dWml2U I have dealt with the seller on many occasions and always found him reliable, prompt and trustworthy. But I would warn any potential US-based customers that mail parcel service from Egypt to the US has slowed down dramatically since November. Parcels which used to take 2-3 weeks to arrive now are taking more than two months.
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Thanks for the information Owain. It's interesting to see two Royal Guards wearing the Italian Order of the Crown, as well as the probable Afghan award. That seems to have been one of the perks of being in the Royal Guards - being involved in state visits by foreign royalty and heads of state, and as a result being rewarded for it. King Victor Emmanuel III of Italy visited Egypt in February 1933, and following his abdication from the throne in May 1946 he went into exile in Alexandria, Egypt, where he died in December 1947 (and is still buried). The medals in the photos above could have been awarded for service to the King in exile during 1946-1947. Here's another photo of a Royal Guard officer, probably a First Lieutenant. He also wears Italian Order of the Crown 5th Class, along with the Egyptian Medal of the Order of Mohammad Ali. I don't know what the date of the photo is. I imagine the Mohammad Ali medal was awarded for gallantry outside of combat, since he doesn't have a campaign medal? Happy New Year and best wishes, Chris
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Thanks for posting these, color photos from this period are very rare. These photos are extremely useful for determining uniform and insignia colors. And the medals are nice too - it will be fun to try to identify them.
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Nick, if you haven't already seen it, I humbly recommend this thread on Egypt's Palestine Medal: http://gmic.co.uk/topic/40737-the-egyptian-palestine-medal/#comment-377057
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Welcome to this little corner of the hobby, Nick! Owain is right on the mark (as usual) that Ebay usually is the easiest and most reliable souce... Sometimes it helps to be creative with search terms and categories, as sellers may not necessarily know what they have. So you can find bargains and serendipitous surprises. This is of course a symptom of there being few references for Middle Eastern militaria, so this hobby can be frustrating. Of course, if your studies take you to the Middle East, the souks and bazaars always offer enjoyable experiences. Best of luck and enjoy, Chris
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Paul, thanks for the photo. By "Maritime Museum in Washington DC" do you mean the US Navy museum down at the Navy Yard? Or is this another museum? Thanks.
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Thank you for the additional details on the author! And also thanks for the clarification on the title - it's obvious when I look at it now. I've run across Carman's book once or twice in online auctions but have never seen a copy, I'd be curious as to your thoughts on it. Besides the Royal Guard insignia, the book also has sketches of distinctive insignia of the following branches of service: - Armor - Cavalry - Border Guards - Artillery - Engineers - Infantry - "liwa' al-asaas" (?) - Machine Gun Training Center - Signals - Arms/Ordnance - Army Service Corps - Medical - Maintenance (?) - Music/Band I'll try to post these in coming days if you're interested.
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Here's a photo of a Royal Guards major, probably during the 1940s. He's wearing an ordinary Army officer's summer uniform, with only the Royal Guards hat and collar insignia to distinguish him. (Because of that I missed this photo in my earlier search.) The medal ribbon probably is the Medal for Distinguished Services.
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This is the book, "The Noble Egyptian Army" - at least I think that's the title. I can't figure out what the last word in Arabic is - it actually looks like "military" (al-harbi) but that doesn't make sense. In any case, the author is Lt. Col. Abd al-Rahman Zaki, director of the War Museum, published by Nile Printers, Cairo, April 1945. It was a very lucky find, like so many others - if I hadn't looked at the right part of the right used book stall in the book bazaar at the right time.... Looking through some of my files I couldn't find any photos of the Royal Guard, but I may have missed them. In any case they are pretty rare. I recall one or two photos of Royal Guards on horseback parading in the 1920s-1930s, listed on Ebay earlier this year, but I didn't acquire them.
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Egyptian Zogist, Thanks for your question! I've also been collecting information and photos of this period, and agree that there is not a lot of information out there. I will try to post some of the photos I have of the Royal Guards in the next couple of days. That could be a starting point for comparing information. Best, Chris
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Egypt - Order of Merit, Buttonhole Rosette?
ChrisW replied to paja's topic in Middle East & Arab States
Paja, That's an intriguing question. It's certainly possible that there are buttonhole rosettes for some Egyptian orders awarded to civilians. But I think it might just as likely be one of the many other orders which have red/white/black ribbons.... like the German Knights Cross or Iron Cross for example? Regards, Chris -
Gro, Thanks for posting this. Yet another interesting Egyptian commemorative from the Nasser period The lettering on the bottom of the medal, in the first photo, may be a clue as to the provenance of this medal: "Coin Minting Authority." Chris
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A little help with Kuwaiti Military Items
ChrisW replied to Lion101's topic in Middle East & Arab States
Lion101, I can't help you with the first two patches, but the last two do say "National Guard" (haras al-watani), so your information is correct. Chris -
Thanks for posting! The 60mm is not a very common mortar caliber -- the biggest user was the US, particularly the WWII-era M2 and M19 mortars. Not sure if the UK used this. I'm sure a few made their way to the Middle East, including (possibly) Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc. Yugoslavia also made a 60mm mortar (M57), not sure if any made their way to the Middle East. Chris
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Gro, thank you for posting this. Is there anything on the reverse side of the medal, or is it blank? Thank you. Chris
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Air Force Debuts New Service Medal
ChrisW replied to IrishGunner's topic in United States of America
Given all the recent press about poor morale/conditions amongst USAF nuclear personnel, one wonders about the motivation for this medal...